Golden Freeza vs. Beerus

Started by Time-Immemorial6 pages

Goku is now half as strong as bills and still takes him forever to fire energy based attacks.

So you're saying Goku only attack is the Kamehameha wave? He doesn't have any fast burst attacks. Is this what you are saying?

Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying Goku only attack is the Kamehameha wave? He doesn't have any fast burst attacks. Is this what you are saying?

Is that what I said or are you just making things up again?

Show me one attack Goku can just wave his finger from a distant place and one shot planets.

Originally posted by bbrem123
It seem Golden Frieza could sense Godly Ki. He was amazed at Goku when he transformed. How is this even possible in the first place?
IF you're assuming that Freeza can now sense ki(which I don't believe), then BSSJG Goku likely doesn't generate Godly ki.

Originally posted by bbrem123
He must have sensed Beerus's power. Which is why he was scared
Ki-sensing is not why Freeza was scared of Beerus.

Yea Freeza is no dummy, he knows how powerful Beerus is regardless.

Beerus manages to give Whis orders even though Whis is more then 50% stronger then him at 100%.

Originally posted by Galan007
IF you're assuming that Freeza can now sense ki(which I don't believe), then BSSJG Goku likely doesn't generate Godly ki.

Ki-sensing is not why Freeza was scared of Beerus.

I was just confused as to why he was in such shock when goku transformed

Originally posted by bbrem123
I was just confused as to why he was in such shock when goku transformed
Imo, because it was an entirely different form then he'd planned on seeing.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Akira stated in Dragon Ball Volume "F", that Freeza is no match for Beerus no matter what he does, I take that as a sign that the powergap between them is bigger then we suspect.

Just as I had suspected. Thank you for this confirmation.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Is that what I said or are you just making things up again?

Show me one attack Goku can just wave his finger from a distant place and one shot planets.

How can I show you that when Goku doesn't destroy planets? I can show you far weaker characters casually destroying planets though. It's hilarious that you question if Goku could casually destroy a planet with a random blast when we have first form Frieza at a power level of 500000 destroying a planet with his finger tip. A planet bigger and more dense than Earth. Goku by the end of the Cell saga was magnitudes more powerful than first form Frieza.

Vegeta destroyed Arlia before coming to Earth which he also would have destroyed. Goku can blow up a planet.

I never said he could not blow up a planet you two idiots.

Read what I said before having a buffoonery knee jerk reaction.

Originally posted by U need Leonard
Just as I had suspected. Thank you for this confirmation.
Apparently you haven't been keeping up with things, because that translation has been circulating around the web since late-July/early-August.

But as I keep reiterating: said statement certainly does not contradict the fact that Beerus would still have to use a very high percentage of his power(near his max, I'd wager) to defeat peak Golden Freeza w/o his stamina weakness intact. After all, Golden Freeza(100%)>BSSJG Goku>SSJG Goku--and even the latter forced Beerus to use 70% of his power during their fight. So yeah...

Of course, this is all still subject to change ala DBS, but as of right now, that's how it'd play out.

Originally posted by Galan007
Apparently you haven't been keeping up
Apparently not.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beerus would still have to use a very high percentage of his power(near his max, I'd wager) to defeat peak Golden Freeza w/o his stamina weakness intact.

I agree with the part of the statement I quoted. That said, the term "near his max", that's relative and vague. I don't think we agree on where "near" actually exists.

So this is a assumption/speculation?

Beerus stomps.

So in light of the events of DBS, have opinions changed?

No.