Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
and? This doesn't change the fact that he was getting feeb'd left and right throughout the fight. This has been common place for superman throughout his history. This is in STARK contrasts to Thanos who rarely gets treated in such ways... True or no?
But tell me of the characters Thanos has killed in one hit.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So? I mentioned some writers do write him that way. Never argued against that. However, you can't retroactively try to pass their canon onto people who didn't write him that way. Doesn't work that way. Many haven't written him that way... so when he's goes... I'm done playing around.. or that's it... or any number of things... He's trying. PERIOD. No amount of superman apologists can change that fact. DC nor I care about what you think a superman going all out is. Stop bringing your subjective view into the argument. I'll ask again, who's gotten feeb'd more... Thanos or Superman?
I have answered your question several times already.
When Superman is acting like Thanos, Thanos has been "Feeb'd" more.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Killing grundy in one hit when he actually tried means he got feebed? If anything it just means Superman holds back a lot.But tell me of the characters Thanos has killed in one hit.
Wasn't the question. Who's gotten feeb'd more Superman or Thanos?
Also, did you forget that Superman was getting owned like he got help?
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I have answered your question several times already.[B]When Superman is acting like Thanos, Thanos has been "Feeb'd" more.
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Again, NOBODY cares about your subjective view of what Thanos' mentality is... Nor does anybody care about trying to find a superman mentality that matches YOUR subjective view on Thanos' mentality. I'll ask again, who's gotten feeb'd more.. Superman or Thanos?
Also, name me these times Thanos' has gotten feeb'd and tossed around like superman has?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wasn't the question. Who's gotten feeb'd more Superman or Thanos?Also, did you forget that Superman was getting owned like he got help?
No, he was holding back. When he wasn't, he killed Grundy in one hit.
So any other instances?
Originally posted by abhilegend
And you lied about grundy and several other instances.No, he was holding back. When he wasn't, he killed Grundy in one hit.
So any other instances?
Wut??
How did I lie about Grundy? He was literally feebing Superman left and right. What exactly did I lie about. Him eventually getting put down, doesn't change the fact that he was tossing around superman like a sack of potatoes.
Further, DID YOU NOT NOTICE SUPERMAN GOT HELP or else he wouldn't have been able to punch a thing?
Lastly, prove he was holding back
Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course it does, Monitors can negate universal attacks as shown in countdown.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahahahaha. This is just hilarious.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And why not? As shown it was affecting green lanterns. So what proof do you need to see more?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Flat out lie. Two universes were destroyed. It was also later informed in JLA that Darkseid's fall destroyed Milestone universe.http://i42.tinypic.com/o08961.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/i20bi9.jpgSo yeah, flat out lie from you. As usual.
Now onto your Icon scans. That from JLA v2 Starbreaker arc? Icon's universe was destroyed. Ok. How does that disprove what I'm saying?
Originally posted by abhilegend
A normal black hole doesn't destroys several universes.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Other than GL corps and Supermen, everyone was summoned by Nix and protected by him. But I like how "universe destroying, multiverse pulling black hole" had no effect on them whatsoever.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hence, its not a black hole. Despite its affects on panel.You've reached new levels of desperation here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Unlike two universes which got ripped apart?
Originally posted by abhilegend
😆I have never seen such denial with ignoring so many proofs and on panel scans.
Sad.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He put on a show that's why. He gave them a chance to win and took them on recklessly.He was just unable to see his opponents next move. This was all supported on panel.
He fought with the mindset of winning but he focuses more than he did in this showmanship feat. Your inability to understand your own posts and ineptitude in debating by trying to twist my words is indeed something.
Thanos still prevailed and still won despite Surfer who traveled at over from another posters calculations well over a billion times the speed of light while fighting someone else with his own senses.
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You are just twisting things around, in any case Thanos does not has supers speed to compete vs a Speedsted or to be called a speedster.
The fact that you justify the chating, liar and cowardly behaviour of Thanos in that comic does not surprises me at all.
In any case (since I actually don't want to keep this room to your constan trolling) like I said Thanos does not has the speed to compete or to be called a speedster. Spiderman, Quicksilver or Northstar have way better reflexes than Thanos.
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElHe has other means to negate speed but his reflex in ig 4 was one of the best reactionary feats ever witnessed in comics.
You are just twisting things around, in any case Thanos does not has supers speed to compete vs a Speedsted or to be called a speedster.The fact that you justify the chating, liar and cowardly behaviour of Thanos in that comic does not surprises me at all.
In any case (since I actually don't want to keep this room to your constan trolling) like I said Thanos does not has the speed to compete or to be called a speedster. Spiderman, Quicksilver or Northstar have way better reflexes than Thanos.
Mephisto is the one who tried to get Thanos to lose here. Thanos depowered himself and still prevailed. He didn't take them seriously and didn't have to.
Thanos can and has negated mich faster characters. Look at his recent bfring of Gladiator before he could avoid Thanos' tactic. Thanos when taking characters on seriously brings strategy and tactics rarely if ever matched. Thanos is a cut above the rest.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Wut??How did I lie about Grundy? He was literally feebing Superman left and right. What exactly did I lie about. Him eventually getting put down, doesn't change the fact that he was tossing around superman like a sack of potatoes.
Further, DID YOU NOT NOTICE SUPERMAN GOT HELP or else he wouldn't have been able to punch a thing?
Lastly, prove he was holding back
Because Superman was holding back. Not because Grundy was stronger, he killed Grundy in one hit when he became serious.
And he didn't get any help in killing grundy in one hit.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Logical fallacy. I'm not saying a Monitor can't do that. Only an idiot would disagree. What I'm merely saying is where on panel did he negate "multiversal" black hole pressures they were enduring in that scene. Better yet where is it even hinted? Unfortunately for you all signs make your claim foolish.
Yeah, he just summoned them for doing nothing in a black hole which swallowed entire reality.
Does that makes sense to you and negating entire series where the black hole was affecting characters?
If you're talking about yourself then that's a yes
No, just about you. But "No, you" is what's expected from you anyway.
Yes. Affecting them as they were trying to reach the earth zero. Did you see me claim they weren't affected in those scenes? In fact I already told you they were affected in their attempt to reach earth zero. What you continue to fail in producing is proof that this "multiversal" black hole should be treated as if it were a regular one, but just infinitely more powerful.Why would I need to provide proof for it? You are the one trying to negate on panel scans. Why don't you rove it and not by circumstantial evidence like always?
There are many glaring shortcomings in your claim that Superman was no selling such incredible pressures during his scene with the mobius chair and Mandrakk. Flaws like GL corp were feeling pressures just out of reach of the parallel earths yet people in earth zero and other earths seemed to be fine all the while falling into this black hole.Because when GLs were trying to reach the black hole, the earths had already fell in the black hole. Earths were not in black hole untill issue 7. Time hijinks.
Was trying to keep it confined to just Final Crisis, but ok.. How was it a lie when I said that earth zero seemed intact since issue #5 up until issue #7 where I stated that it may have then taken damage?What? The earths were not in black hole till issue 7 and at that point everything was destroyed by Darkseid and only watchtower remained of the entire earth.
What with all the ambiguity of scenes during that whole arc, I made a pretty conservative conclusion. Heck in the page where Clark seemed to activate the Miracle Machine in front of Mandrakk, the GL were still depicted as being outside of earth zero along with some of Mandrakk's destroyers.So, what's your point here?
Now onto your Icon scans. That from JLA v2 Starbreaker arc? Icon's universe was destroyed. Ok. How does that disprove what I'm saying?Darkseid's fall which created the black hole destroyed the universe. How does that coincide with "harmless black hole" theory?
Thank you. If you would only follow this line of thinking...Yes, a multiversal black hole does.
Summoned yes. Protected? I guess you'd have to prove that along with GL's outright no selling "multiversal" black hole pressures with depleted rings.No need to. They already did. Along with towing entire multiverse from the said black hole as per Nix Uotan. You are acting like that was the craziest thing they did in the final crisis.
Along with barely conscious Supergirl no selling same pressures. Along with Ultraman no selling the same. Wait it must be in the narration I missed.So you just want proof of something that already happened?
Aren't you clever or something? Figure it out.
Yes. It sure did affect the populace of earth zero since the planet was being torn apart as soon as space time collapsed in FC#5... You know, people getting squashed out right from the gravitational pressures of a n "multiversal wtfzorz" black hole.In case you already forgot the planet didn't fall in the black hole untill issue 7 and in that issue Superman shrunk them all to protect them.
But repeating yourself already? How surprising!
Two? Maybe I read that wrong. Thought your scan said Icon's universe.In final crisis it destroyed two universes. In JLA it destroyed Icon's universe as well.
Proof of what? "Multiversal omgwtf +++" pressures in the abyss?
Treating Darkseid's black hole like a regular one is foolish based on what REALLY happened on panel.
That it destroyed universes and was actively affecting characters?
This is pathetic even for you.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That he and Superman had several fights.Because Superman was holding back. Not because Grundy was stronger, he killed Grundy in one hit when he became serious.
And he didn't get any help in killing grundy in one hit.
So you're doing your moron routine then. I see.
Are you claiming Grundy and Superman have only fought once in his history?
Another moronic comment from Abhi... The question is getting feeb'd.. tossed around... manhandled. It has NOTHING to do with durability you clown. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with my premise. Grundy taking one two or 20 hits before going down is irrelevant. That only pertains to his durability. If he was manhandling supes all over the place before the hit.. THAT is feebing. That was the topic we were discussing. Not durability your buffoon
Lastly, it doesn't matter if he didn't get help for the hit clownshoes. He was getting feeb'd left and right and had to be SAVED by Hal. If Hal wasn't there to turn the tides superman might not have even been able to get off a punch. That's like seeing a street fight and seeing one guy pounding on the other on the ground... Than that guy gets cheapshotted and stunned... The other guy gets up and hits him and a moron like you would go... See.. It only took one punch. When in fact, he was getting the ever loving shit kicked out of him before somebody else intervened and allowed the other guy to do a thing. Does being dumb about superman and common sense come naturally or have you had to work at it?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiBashing so soon? This time I didn't even have to mock you..
So you're doing your moron routine then. I see.
Post crisis? Yeah. Why don't you tell me of the other times they have fought?Are you claiming Grundy and Superman have only fought once in his history?
He was holding back, yes. [wuote] Grundy taking one two or 20 hits before going down is irrelevant. That only pertains to his durability. [/quote] Is it? So are you saying he was stronger than Superman but less durable to the point he could be killed by a weaker being with one hit?Another moronic comment from Abhi... The question is getting feeb'd.. tossed around... manhandled. It has NOTHING to do with durability you clown. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with my premise.
If he was manhandling supes all over the place before the hit.. THAT is feebing. That was the topic we were discussing. Not durability your buffoonIs this another one of your "Doomsday didn't get stronger after death" attempts? Because you're being inane again. Not that it's some surprise.
So you don't even know it was Alan and all he did was hit Grundy aside. Superman at that point didn't even took Grundy seriously.Lastly, it doesn't matter if he didn't get help for the hit clownshoes. He was getting feeb'd left and right and had to be SAVED by Hal.
If Hal wasn't there to turn the tides superman might not have even been able to get off a punch. That's like seeing a street fight and seeing one guy pounding on the other on the ground... Than that guy gets cheapshotted and stunned...So you haven't read the issue, I get it. Grundy wasn't stunned by Alan. He actually started overpowering him on the next page and Superman killed him in one hit.
The other guy gets up and hits him and a moron like you would go... See..Shut up already with insults.
It only took one punch. When in fact, he was getting the ever loving shit kicked out of him before somebody else intervened and allowed the other guy to do a thing. Does being dumb about superman and common sense come naturally or have you had to work at it?
How many times do you want to get owned on topics like these? Why don't you post the fight here and see who is right.
Or posting scans too hard for you smartypants?
