General Primary Discussion Thread

Started by Time-Immemorial212 pages

Sachs has financed Clintons campaign. So you could say the same about her right?

How about her daughter already calling Bernie: President Sanders😂

Can't say much good about the Clintons these days.

You got Bill looking like a geriatric, Chelsea calling sanders president, her husband is a hedge fund manager on wallstreet and ole Hilary financed by wallstreet, under investigation by the FBI and has flip flopped on every big issue.

And don't forget that Hillary takes Big Money "donations" from Big Oil Middle East Countries that aint exactly known for being Big Supporters of Women and Gay Rights.

That and Bill likes to hang out with known Child Molesting Billionaires on their private islands.

I must say, the Republican establishment types must feel really bad.

Opening in, I think they thought they had a great lineup- Jeb! Walker! Rubio! Kasich! Christie!

Then we had Walker and Jeb fall apart, and now Rubio spends a chunk of his airtime telling us Barack Obama knows exactly what he's doing 🙂

Originally posted by Flyattractor
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That and Bill likes to hang out with known Child Molesting Billionaires on their private islands.

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Oh, my, blog!

You're still pushing that! 😄

You do know that Donald Trump knows and used to praise the exact same guy, right?

He tried to smooze with everyone of wealth and power and invited tons of people to parties, none of them knew what he'd done or was close personal friends with them.

Also: Kinda disappointed neither of you want to talk the debate. Y'know, the thing leading in to the super-important-for-Republicans primary state that's likely to decide at least one of the major candidates going forward?

I just finished it an hour ago.

The opening was a trainwreck.

Christie really hammered Rubio, don't think he looked particularly good.

Trump, too, didn't really get much good lines, and he looked weak (or at least unpopular) on eminent domain.

When they talked policy, which luckily didn't happen much, it was awful, like "I hate immigrants more" or "I think we should torture more people".

At any rate, really looking forward to the New Hampshire primary, no idea what influence this debate has had, if any. Like I would definitely have considered Rubio the loser, but maybe not: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-thought-marco-rubio-lost-the-debate-but-new-hampshire-might-think-differently/

Originally posted by Bardock42
I just finished it an hour ago.

The opening was a trainwreck.

Christie really hammered Rubio, don't think he looked particularly good.

Trump, too, didn't really get much good lines, and he looked weak (or at least unpopular) on eminent domain.

Yea, but considering that in NH, Rubio's his main competition, I think he still probably benefited.


When they talked policy, which luckily didn't happen much, it was awful, like "I hate immigrants more" or "I think we should torture more people".

At any rate, really looking forward to the New Hampshire primary, no idea what influence this debate has had, if any. Like I would definitely have considered Rubio the loser, but maybe not: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-thought-marco-rubio-lost-the-debate-but-new-hampshire-might-think-differently/

Right, a good point. A lot of people will think it feeds into the Santorum-interview no-accomplishments thing, but the question isn't whether a lot of people do, it's whether New Hampshire Republicans do.

And this race is volatile enough that there's opportunities to recover from flubs and missteps.

I'm honestly getting burnt out on these debates.

Originally posted by Q99

Oh, my, blog!

You're still pushing that! 😄

You do know that Donald Trump knows and used to praise the exact same guy, right?

He tried to smooze with everyone of wealth and power and invited tons of people to parties, none of them knew what he'd done or was close personal friends with them.


Hey. If you don't have a problem with Child Molesters. That's your issue not Mine! And just to point out. I AM NOT A DONALD TRUMP FAN! For a whole lot of reasons. His SMOOZING to all kinds of CRAPPY People is just one reason!

Trumps lead grows in NH

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/268544-poll-trumps-lead-grows-in-nh-days-before-primary

Originally posted by Q99
Also: Kinda disappointed neither of you want to talk the debate. Y'know, the thing leading in to the super-important-for-Republicans primary state that's likely to decide at least one of the major candidates going forward?

Of course not. They would rather talk about tabloid headlines and conspiracy theories, because it is easier than talking about actual issues and it distracts from their candidates' embarrassing debate performances.

R: Trump's lead. Makes sense. As said, Rubio is the biggest competition in New Hampshire, and that poll is after the Santorum endorsement ads ran.

I'm going to spitball and guess for both parties, Sanders and Trump will win by about 15 points, give or take. A single digit win would be a less-good sign, and if either can win by 20 points, that'll be very good for them, and potentially in reach.

This is an important state for both.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
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Hey. If you don't have a problem with Child Molesters. That's your issue not Mine! [/B]

Oh, that's a disingenuous assertion.

Remember, none of these people knew what he was. He did not advertise what he was doing.

It's not fair to blame anyone invited to parties for not knowing something they had no reason to know. They weren't close friends, they weren't clued in, and they are not Batman, Sherlock Holms, nor are they psychic.

Donald and Hil? They were more likely to be at one of the parties to talk to each other than anything to do with the guy's crimes- which were uncovered many years later and neither has defended.

If they WERE Batman then it makes sense why nothing was said. After all..the dude tends to have a thing for young boys in tights.

Originally posted by Q99
Also: Kinda disappointed neither of you want to talk the debate. Y'know, the thing leading in to the super-important-for-Republicans primary state that's likely to decide at least one of the major candidates going forward?

I didn't get to watch the debate so how about you shut the hell up with your wild accusations?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I didn't get to watch the debate so how about you shut the hell up with your wild accusations?

Well, one, I had just posted stuff about the debate including a video of a small part of it, and there's tons of summaries and reactions online, transcripts, the debate itself in video form... you even said you were planning on watching it.

And, "I'm disappointed you're not talking about the debate," is a wild accusation now?

Your bar of 'wild' is rather low.

Just shut up already, idiot. I have not gotten to watch it. So just cut your shit out. Even now you just wanting to start arguments even after I said I have not even watched it. Your a low life baiter, just like your stupid bait thread that got closed.

Originally posted by Q99
Marco Rubio got stuck in a loop

Christie really ripped into him on dodging a question too (on him not supporting one of his own bills on immigration reform), and Rubio responded by almost word-for-word repeating his dodge.

It's looking pretty clear that Rubio relies on debate preparation and memorized his speech, and didn't plan ahead to backups.

This is good news for his opponents. This is exactly the kind of break the other establishment candidates- Jeb, Christie, Kasich- have been hoping for if it helps them in New Hampshire, and Trump and Cruz certainly aren't going to mind Rubio taking a good bruise here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Was this tonight? I have not watched it yet, going to do so soon.

Oh an look here I responded to you cordially, and said I had not watched it. Quit pretending you didn't see it, dumbass.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Just shut up already, idiot. I have not gotten to watch it. So just cut your shit out. Even now you just wanting to start arguments even after I said I have not even watched it. Your a low life baiter, just like your stupid bait thread that got closed.

Do you have any sense of proportion? I said I was disappointed- not just with you, but with Flyattractor, and just in general how no conservative poster was commenting- and you go to 'wild accusations' and insults.

You seem like the one trying to start arguments. I'm looking for political commentary here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh an look here I responded to you cordially, and said I had not watched it. Quit pretending you didn't see it, dumbass.

Actually, I did see it- which is why I was disappointed. Because my disappointment post came the next day after you were posting about politics again, ten hours later, and there wasn't even mention of the snippets posted. I had my hopes up.

Oh yea play the victim.

I'm no victim, but you practically communicate by attacking people ^^; And taking, "I'm disappointed there's no talk on this," as an attack... c'mon. Just look at yourself, and ask if you'd put up with your own attitude.

Is it really that hard to, y'know, just discuss stuff?

Why do we even bother to talk.