Nihilus and Vitiate vs. Sidious and Yoda

If you read the page before that, you'd know that Marr's speculation also implies he came down to the planet to finish her off, but decided not to.

You mean this?

It was said there were no survivors on Katarr. That's because my Lord came for the last one himself.

That might just be him coming to take her as his apprentice.

So are people thinking that Visas survived the drain on her own merits?

Because I'm pretty sure she didn't, Nihilus obviously spared her. Theres no other way she could have survived the attack.

Only a fool would argue that Nihilus didn't spare Visas(a being who sees through the Force)

@Nai you agree with me?
Also you are a great debater...
Wished to tell you that...

Originally posted by NewGuy01
If you read the page before that, you'd know that Marr's speculation also implies he came down to the planet to finish her off, but decided not to.

I seriously wonder how Visas's speculation matters, when she gets served facts on the next page.

Originally posted by Nai
If he can stop the "storm" from consuming one person, than he has more control over its "targets" than you assumed.

And, woohoo, you have no "proof" that any power of Sidious or Yoda would be effective against such "powerhouses" as Nihilus or Vitiate. If you want to turn this into a happy denial festivity, I instantly win, because - unlike Sidious and Yoda - Vitiate and Nihilus have killed rather many force users with their force abilities.

That aside: You have, once more, ignored the point. While the Drain may or may not (I ain't sure) kill the likes of Yoda and Sidious, it would certainly require that they defend themselves against it. And that's the point where Vitiate could fire away with another "area attack" (e.g. the lightning storm he utilized against the Jedi Strike Team coming for him). And I found it questionable that Yoda and Sidious would still be standing after that.

The other way around, Yoda lacks the offensive abilities to deal with the team, while I also don't see Sidious taking out people with the Force here. So, as I already said: Yoda and Sidious would probably win this in a melee, but I don't see how they'd win a "wizard duel" (aka force contest) against the Sith duo.

That was poor Beni.

It reflects my interest in this debate. 👆

I can understand that, but Nai is pretty deserving of full-hearted reply. On the contrary however, Lady Tano clearly takes precedence.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I never suggested he lacked control, merely that he wasn't siphoning the energies of the planet and people individually.

He apparently was. How else spare people individually?

I lol'ed.

That was the point.

I reckon they'd manage, yeah.

How?

And we are all surprised.

By me granting Yoda and Sidious melee victory? Thought so. 🙄

It reflects my interest in this debate. 👆

😖hifty:

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I can understand that, but Nai is pretty deserving of full-hearted reply. On the contrary however, Lady Tano clearly takes precedence.

Is Bling Bling Boy, Yeo Bean's alias on Space Battle Forums?
Their debate style is very similar, TBH.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he isn't.

I see either pulling a win. Yoda's the weak link here Force wise, and Vitiate being the MVP in this area already gives team 1 an advantage. If either of team 2's members could close the gap, I see team 1 going down. However, Nihilus isn't distributing his power to hold together the Ravager, so his TK will be monstrous. I can see him at the very least slowing Sheev were he to attempt a melee assault, if not stop him outright. I also see him dominating Yoda with it if he put full effort into it. With this in mind, I give team 1 the solid majority, seeing as it would realistically be a Force battle.

Nihilus dominating Yoda? lmfao

Originally posted by SunRazer
Nihilus dominating Yoda? lmfao

It's not exactly ideal to lambaste others for things that you lack, you know?

Sidious is canonically more powerful than Nihilus, and he failed to dominate Yoda. Case closed.

Originally posted by SunRazer
It's not exactly ideal to lambaste others for things that you lack, you know?

Sidious is canonically more powerful than Nihilus, and he failed to dominate Yoda. Case closed.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Nihilus dominating Yoda? lmfao

Darth Nihilus is a stupendously powerful and dangerous Force-user.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Canonically Sidious is the most powerful Sith of the Banite line. And his power relates to his Sith knowledge, not Force strength. That's the key of the Banite Lords. Each Sith becomes more knowledgeable(powerful) with each generation.
So, yeah. Sidious still doesn't beat Nihilus or Valkorion.
And this is the same for Yoda as well(only 1000 years old)
And Sidious' trumps come from his knowledge and galactic conquest. Also because his brain was far effective at taking the galaxy rather than the TOR era Sith Lords' unfathomable powers.
But nice try, though. (Y)
Impressive, most impressive.

Didn't see one thing that related to my point. That you managed to type up all of this with no relevance to the post that you quoted might be a world record.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Why not?

Darth Nihilus is a stupendously powerful and dangerous Force-user.

And Yoda isn't?