Sidious and Vader vs. Yoda and Mace Windu

Originally posted by quanchi112
make sense.

He tried and failed. Filoni agrees they got away. We see him attempt it, dummy.

No, they were scrubs who couldn't even defend themselves while Opress lasted longer. They sucked. Windu wins. He's elite. They weren't.

I'm glad you agree I make sense. Finally.

He was taking his sweet time, once again he could have killed them whenever. Again taking his sweet time.

These are Jedi masters with feats of their own. 😂 Good for Opress even though Sidious wasn't toying around with Savage, but wasted no time dispatching the Jedi. He is elite I agree. They are Jedi council masters. Most of them tend to be elite. 😂 😂 😂 Oh Quan you make me laugh. You know that right.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I'm glad you agree I make sense. Finally.

He was taking his sweet time, once again he could have killed them whenever. Again taking his sweet time.

These are Jedi masters with feats of their own. 😂 Good for Opress even though Sidious wasn't toying around with Savage, but wasted no time dispatching the Jedi. He is elite I agree. They are Jedi council masters. Most of them tend to be elite. 😂 😂 😂 Oh Quan you make me laugh. You know that right.

What feats ? So you dismiss the showing and then make shit up. This is why you're a shit debater. Windu won because he's elite. The Jedi masters died quickly because they are weak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are a failure.

What feats ? So you dismiss the showing and then make shit up. This is why you're a shit debater. Windu won because he's elite. The Jedi masters died quickly because they are weak.

So you agree with a failure where is your life going. 😂 😂 See Quan you may have terrible arguments, but you sure are funny.

Well one did defeat Grevious. One was able to spar with Windu on even footing, evenly. All are on the Jedi council which shows great skill, power, and wisdom. All survived the battle of genesis which shows great skill with a specific form. All were brought by Mace because he as the elite, second in command of the Jedi order, believed they were up for the task. Why do you assume the worst? Maybe it was just that Sidious was too fast.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So you agree with a failure where is your life going. 😂 😂 See Quan you may have terrible arguments, but you sure are funny.

Well one did defeat Grevious. One was able to spar with Windu on even footing, evenly. All are on the Jedi council which shows great skill, power, and wisdom. All survived the battle of genesis which shows great skill with a specific form. All were brought by Mace because he as the elite, second in command of the Jedi order, believed they were up for the task. Why do you assume the worst? Maybe it was just that Sidious was too fast.

Which one beat grievous who isn't shit by the way ? No, Windu is superior. Yoda showed up to bail them out. Windu defeated Sidious while they died quickly. They suck. Sidious wasn't that fast for oppress. They were slow. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Typical troll response.

Which one beat grievous who isn't shit by the way ? No, Windu is superior. Yoda showed up to bail them out. Windu defeated Sidious while they died quickly. They suck. Sidious wasn't that fast for oppress. They were slow. 😂

Coming from the biggest troll on KMC Forum.

Kit Fisto. Like you said rivals beat each other all the time. Doesn't change the fact that they survived their own parts. Again circumstantial. Just because they died? Well by looking at the battle, Sidious did pretty much let savage attack him while he defended and then when he twirled around the only thing that saved savage appeared to be the fact he had a saber staff. Sidious is just fast.

Can I ask you a question? This will help determine why you debate the characters you do and your style.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Coming from the biggest troll on KMC Forum.

Kit Fisto. Like you said rivals beat each other all the time. Doesn't change the fact that they survived their own parts. Again circumstantial. Just because they died? Well by looking at the battle, Sidious did pretty much let savage attack him while he defended and then when he twirled around the only thing that saved savage appeared to be the fact he had a saber staff. Sidious is just fast.

Can I ask you a question? This will help determine why you debate the characters you do and your style.

So you decide now Sidious holds back and kills but only you know what he's doing. This is your troll thing when you ignore your own points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you are.

So you decide now Sidious holds back and kills but only you know what he's doing. This is your troll thing when you ignore your own points.

Glad we agree that you Quanchi112 are the biggest troll ever.

I'm just going by what we see. We see Sidious jump after savage lunges at him. Savage us continuously swinging his saber. Sidious dodges then blockes. He then kicks and spins around savage with savage appearing to be dazed not knowing where Sidious is and appearing confused. I go by what I see.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Glad we agree that you Quanchi112 are the biggest troll ever.

I'm just going by what we see. We see Sidious jump after savage lunges at him. Savage us continuously swinging his saber. Sidious dodges then blockes. He then kicks and spins around savage with savage appearing to be dazed not knowing where Sidious is and appearing confused. I go by what I see.

So Opress is greater than the Jedi masters. Evidence>>>you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is another example with a simple word like you throwing you for a loop.

So Opress is greater than the Jedi masters. Evidence>>>you.

It's a shame. You of all people should understand wordplay. Isn't that what they teach you in Trolling 101.

Sidious took them seriously. The same can't be said about Opress. However their were more of them aswell.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's a shame. You of all people should understand wordplay. Isn't that what they teach you in Trolling 101.

Sidious took them seriously. The same can't be said about Opress. However their were more of them aswell.

He took a rival seriously. The masters died quickly as they were inferior opponents. Windu won. Facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I've never been in the class but apparently you have. Feel the burn.

He took a rival seriously. The masters died quickly as they were inferior opponents. Windu won. Facts.

You actually have sense you're a confirmed troll by the majority of people here.

He took Yoda seriously yes. Yoda is his rival in skill in power. Maul and savage aren't. Yoda came and fought him. Maul almost pissed his pants when Sidious came.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You actually have sense you're a confirmed troll by the majority of people here.

He took Yoda seriously yes. Yoda is his rival in skill in power. Maul and savage aren't. Yoda came and fought him. Maul almost pissed his pants when Sidious came.

He cackled at Yoda and gave up his advantage because he's a moron.

He took them all seriously. He won. Maul knew he wasn't ready for his former master. He fought him still showing true courage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just admitted you were in the troll class.

He cackled at Yoda and gave up his advantage because he's a moron.

He took them all seriously. He won. Maul knew he wasn't ready for his former master. He fought him still showing true courage.

If you could read you woudl know I said Quanchi112 is in the troll class, or is your trolling natural talent?

Not a moron. More overconfidence if it were a problem.

Nah he didn't take maul seriously. Courage is irrelevant really.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If you and 3 of your friends attack me. I kill your friend before you can even react, that means I can kill you, since couldn't react to that first person or didn't see me do it. I was to fast for you. I'm not sure how much easier I can make this.

I have to disagree. Lucas clearly stated, that Mace is someone who is able to at least compete with Sidious. That doesn't mean that he's close to being equal to him, but that's enough to assume that he wont be blitzed by him.

Speed is a hard subject in SW. Mace and Kenobi aren't too fast for non-Force user like Jango or Cad Bane. Dooku isn't either. But Dooku and Mace could compete with Yoda and Sidious in lightsabers battles.

Originally posted by McP
I have to disagree. Lucas clearly stated, that Mace is someone who is able to at least compete with Sidious. That doesn't mean that he's close to being equal to him, but that's enough to assume that he wont be blitzed by him.

Speed is a hard subject in SW. Mace and Kenobi aren't too fast for non-Force user like Jango or Cad Bane. Dooku isn't either. But Dooku and Mace could compete with Yoda and Sidious in lightsabers battles.

I can get your point and actually agree now.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
If you could read you woudl know I said Quanchi112 is in the troll class, or is your trolling natural talent?

Not a moron. More overconfidence if it were a problem.

Nah he didn't take maul seriously. Courage is irrelevant really.

Yes, he did hence the trip. Hence son of dathomir. No, it isn't.

Originally posted by McP
I have to disagree. Lucas clearly stated, that Mace is someone who is able to at least compete with Sidious. That doesn't mean that he's close to being equal to him, but that's enough to assume that he wont be blitzed by him.

Speed is a hard subject in SW. Mace and Kenobi aren't too fast for non-Force user like Jango or Cad Bane. Dooku isn't either. But Dooku and Mace could compete with Yoda and Sidious in lightsabers battles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You bragged about it. That's a moronic trait.

Yes, he did hence the trip. Hence son of dathomir. No, it isn't.

Why would I take credit for your failure. Qunachi112 is the one who went to troll school.

No he didn't. That trip was to elimate a thorn in his side. If anything that was more political power that Sidious was concerned with. Yea it kinda of is. Skill is what matters and Sidious had way more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The points I've brought up is that force users aren't too fast for Jango, Bane, and Pre yet suddenly emperor Sidious just rolls over because you said it and not me. Awesome to hear him concede these points.

I was talking about the Jedi masters not the bounty hunters.

Jango. Was basically running the entire time. He wa flying around and had Kenobi on defense so speed couldn't be used to blitz or anything of that order.

Bane. Same as the first. The enviornment was defintly against using speed to sprint or anything like that.

Pre. His battle with maul is questionable as it's possible he didn't use force augmentation.

Also there is an art that helps non force weilders combat force weilders.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Why would I take credit for your failure. Qunachi112 is the one who went to troll school.

No he didn't. That trip was to elimate a thorn in his side. If anything that was more political power that Sidious was concerned with. Yea it kinda of is. Skill is what matters and Sidious had way more.