Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Talzin is but I was referring to Maul. You can't follow along with a debate or a point.
You're the one who said Talzin was more powerful than Sidious. It seems once you lose you ***** out. Man up.Why does it matter?
It's pointless to try to even tell you as you're too dense to comprehend it either way.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Talzin is but I was referring to Maul. You can't follow along with a debate or a point.It's pointless to try to even tell you as you're too dense to comprehend it either way.
She is not more powerful than Sidious, I refer you to there battle where they were even. Everyone seems to be more powerful than maul.
So you don't have a reason. Saying Sidious died doesn't change any outcome for these battles.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Sidious needed an advantage there to one to kill her. Weak.
She is not more powerful than Sidious, I refer you to there battle where they were even. Everyone seems to be more powerful than maul.So you don't have a reason. Saying Sidious died doesn't change any outcome for these battles.
To show how slow his reflexes were and how easily he died despite precog and his power against a one armed cyborg.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Sidious needed an advantage there to one to kill her. Weak.To show how slow his reflexes were and how easily he died despite precog and his power against a one armed cyborg.
Doesn't mean she's more powerful. This is shown by how when they fought neither was really able to overpower the other.
Yet that has never been displayed in any other fight, and also why would he even use precog. Vader was his servant. He had no hope of defeating him, and Vader has done some pretty crazy things that pretty much would seal the deal that he was Sidious's slave forever. No one would have saw that coming. He wasn't paying attention since he was to busy getting rid of Luke, and Sidious underestimated the power of love and how Vader felt for Luke.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Yes, it does since he wouldn't even take her on solo.
Doesn't mean she's more powerful. This is shown by how when they fought neither was really able to overpower the other.Yet that has never been displayed in any other fight, and also why would he even use precog. Vader was his servant. He had no hope of defeating him, and Vader has done some pretty crazy things that pretty much would seal the deal that he was Sidious's slave forever. No one would have saw that coming. He wasn't paying attention since he was to busy getting rid of Luke, and Sidious underestimated the power of love and how Vader felt for Luke.
Precog is an automatic ability used in combat. He was torturing his son right in front of him and even questioned him with regards to his son earlier in the film. You seem rather ignorant. Sidious was caught with his pants down and died embarrassingly so being tossed down a shaft screaming to his death. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does since he wouldn't even take her on solo.Precog is an automatic ability used in combat. He was torturing his son right in front of him and even questioned him with regards to his son earlier in the film. You seem rather ignorant. Sidious was caught with his pants down and died embarrassingly so being tossed down a shaft screaming to his death. 😂
So you compleltely missed the time Sidious fought her without assistance?
No it's not. The force is some thing the Jedi and Sith learn to control. It happens when they feel the need to to. No you seem rather desperate. Vader was trying to convert him to the dark side. Ignore that part did you? Vader knows how the Sith are. Sidious states this aswell. "If you will not be turned than you will die". That's how the Sith operate. So while this is all good and well it still doesn't help your case. What does his death have to do with the battle of Yoda and Windu vs Sidious and Vader? 😂
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2For a brief moment but then he needed assistance. Windu fought her on his own. 😂
So you compleltely missed the time Sidious fought her without assistance?No it's not. The force is some thing the Jedi and Sith learn to control. It happens when they feel the need to to. No you seem rather desperate. Vader was trying to convert him to the dark side. Ignore that part did you? Vader knows how the Sith are. Sidious states this aswell. "If you will not be turned than you will die". That's how the Sith operate. So while this is all good and well it still doesn't help your case. What does his death have to do with the battle of Yoda and Windu vs Sidious and Vader? 😂
They hide their skills but precog is like a reflex you don't just turn off. He still wasn't sure of Vader and Luke sensed the conflict in him. Then Sidious erred which coast him his life. To just sit there and not even be ready for it and then fall to a one armed cyborg. Pathetic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
For a brief moment but then he needed assistance. Windu fought her on his own. 😂They hide their skills but precog is like a reflex you don't just turn off. He still wasn't sure of Vader and Luke sensed the conflict in him. Then Sidious erred which coast him his life. To just sit there and not even be ready for it and then fall to a one armed cyborg. Pathetic.
A brief moment that no one was able to overpower the other. With sabers and still no one overpowered the other. Your point is?
The force is the force. You are trained to use it at your disposal. Precog is no exception. They are used at the whim of the Jedi or Sith in question. If it were always active it would have saved them from so much in the war. He was sure of enough to where he believed he had him under his control.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Yoda easily overpowered his powers. He fled.
A brief moment that no one was able to overpower the other. With sabers and still no one overpowered the other. Your point is?The force is the force. You are trained to use it at your disposal. Precog is no exception. They are used at the whim of the Jedi or Sith in question. If it were always active it would have saved them from so much in the war. He was sure of enough to where he believed he had him under his control.
They are used as reflexes just like any other old reflex trained into someone. No, since precog isn't 100 percent effective. The Jedi tried and failed. The order was decimated.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda easily overpowered his powers. He fled.They are used as reflexes just like any other old reflex trained into someone. No, since precog isn't 100 percent effective. The Jedi tried and failed. The order was decimated.
Just shows that Sidious and Yoda are more powerful than Talzin since they were on Dathomir which was stated to be the heart of her power.
No that's just you using excuses. This is even sagged by Kanan in the newest episode when he found Rex, that the Jedi were unprepared and caught off guard by the clones attack. Without warning or anything. Then you take into consideration that they have fought with the clones for 3 years in life or death situations. There is a certain level of trust developed, so why even use precog on them.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2No, it doesn't since she was never stated to have an amp but was stated to be weakened. Talzin took him on and he needed more allies. Windu didn't need anyone else's hell.
Just shows that Sidious and Yoda are more powerful than Talzin since they were on Dathomir which was stated to be the heart of her power.No that's just you using excuses. This is even sagged by Kanan in the newest episode when he found Rex, that the Jedi were unprepared and caught off guard by the clones attack. Without warning or anything. Then you take into consideration that they have fought with the clones for 3 years in life or death situations. There is a certain level of trust developed, so why even use precog on them.
Yes, as it's clear their reflexes and precog isn't that great. Yoda couldn't even defend himself against Sheev. Precog is overrated and laughably proven unreliable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't since she was never stated to have an amp but was stated to be weakened. Talzin took him on and he needed more allies. Windu didn't need anyone else's hell.Yes, as it's clear their reflexes and precog isn't that great. Yoda couldn't even defend himself against Sheev. Precog is overrated and laughably proven unreliable.
I've also read Son of,Dathomir,and it never confirms she was weekend. It's says she was in the Hear of her power for sure, so how can she be weakened in the heart of her power.
Yoda could have just didn't. He showed he could have based on showings in that same battle, and with Dooku. You're just a Jedi hater. Stupid people like you just don't understand how it works.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2It never does say weekend it says weakened. It never says amped. Ever. Her new body. The comic states it, kid.
I've also read Son of,Dathomir,and it never confirms she was weekend. It's says she was in the Hear of her power for sure, so how can she be weakened in the heart of her power.Yoda could have just didn't. He showed he could have based on showings in that same battle, and with Dooku. You're just a Jedi hater. Stupid people like you just don't understand how it works.
He didn't. Fact. He was there to kill him and failed. You really don't get Star Wars if you think Yoda was screwing around.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It never does say weekend it says weakened. It never says amped. Ever. Her new body. The comic states it, kid.He didn't. Fact. He was there to kill him and failed. You really don't get Star Wars if you think Yoda was screwing around.
Where does it say she was weakened? Show a quote, scan or a visual that is legitmently. I can show you where it says heart of her power. The comic never says she was weakened. Show your proof.
Doesn't change the fact he could. You really don't get Star Wars if you think Yoda couldn't block that.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2It isn't worth the effort. So the heart of her power means her normal power. At No point is it mentioned as an amp.
Where does it say she was weakened? Show a quote, scan or a visual that is legitmently. I can show you where it says heart of her power. The comic never says she was weakened. Show your proof.Doesn't change the fact he could. You really don't get Star Wars if you think Yoda couldn't block that.
He didn't. Fact.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't worth the effort. So the heart of her power means her normal power. At No point is it mentioned as an amp.He didn't. Fact.
Heart of her power which means where she is strongest. That right there takes away anything saying she was weakened. The. Night brother said it was a possibility that she could be weakened, but it never confirms it.
So you agree he could have. Good to know.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So at her best means no amp. The scan said the process of getting a body said she was weakened showing you how straining that process can be.
Heart of her power which means where she is strongest. That right there takes away anything saying she was weakened. The. Night brother said it was a possibility that she could be weakened, but it never confirms it.So you agree he could have. Good to know.
They never said she was amped.
That's conjecture. I deal in facts.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So at her best means no amp. The scan said the process of getting a body said she was weakened showing you how straining that process can be.They never said she was amped.
That's conjecture. I deal in facts.
Her best is her best and now you're here, Dathomir
, Talzin has been known, as well as Getherizon to perform feats beyond the normal scale. Show the scan. I can show you the same scan where it says she could be weakened.
It's one of those things that you know. Dathomir is a nexus. Ventress even says in Dark Disciple that this place is linked with the dark side. Every part of it.
So conjecture is when he is seen blocking and taking other attacks from the same person and Dooku.