Sidious and Vader vs. Yoda and Mace Windu

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I was talking about the Jedi masters not the bounty hunters.

Jango. Was basically running the entire time. He wa flying around and had Kenobi on defense so speed couldn't be used to blitz or anything of that order.

Bane. Same as the first. The enviornment was defintly against using speed to sprint or anything like that.

Pre. His battle with maul is questionable as it's possible he didn't use force augmentation.

Also there is an art that helps non force weilders combat force weilders.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Maul was a threat to his destiny. Maul is a threat to him. He amassed and paved his own way. Vader ended him anyways by just throwing him over. Sad way to go being the emperor of galactic power and all.

Maul was more of the becoming threat. He want a threat, he was becoming a threat. By having control of Mandalore he was in a unique position to do some very dangerous stuff. The rest here is just you low balling again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, those are all examples of force users and bounty hunters being good opponents. Ffs the slower droids were taking out Jedi in a larger group and they were slow, not very maneuverable, and not highly skilled.

I agree those bounty hunters are skilled. However I'm just acknowledging I don't agree that they can't be blitzed by a Jedi or,Sith based off the showings. They were on offense while Jedi and Sith were on defense.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Maul was more of the becoming threat. He want a threat, he was becoming a threat. By having control of Mandalore he was in a unique position to do some very dangerous stuff. The rest here is just you low balling again.

Reciting facts is reciting facts. You ignoring them is you being biased.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was a threat and both Sidious and Talzin agree. You not understanding words is your own predicament.

Reciting facts is reciting facts. You ignoring them is you being biased.

Talzin was the actual threat. Maul was the next level down.

No you're just pulling facts that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why are we even discussing maul he isn't apart of this thread. Point is Sith team win. Get back to that since that's the thread topic.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I agree those bounty hunters are skilled. However I'm just acknowledging I don't agree that they can't be blitzed by a Jedi or,Sith based off the showings. They were on offense while Jedi and Sith were on defense.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Talzin was the actual threat. Maul was the next level down.

No you're just pulling facts that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. Why are we even discussing maul he isn't apart of this thread. Point is Sith team win. Get back to that since that's the thread topic.

Facts. Can't deny them.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Talzin acknowledged Maul was the threat. Talzin was more powerful.

Facts. Can't deny them.

Maul was a level 1. He was getting there. Talzin was level 2. She was the threat. Not more than Sidious.

They are still irrelevant to this topic.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Maul was a level 1. He was getting there. Talzin was level 2. She was the threat. Not more than Sidious.

They are still irrelevant to this topic.

Facts are facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The story made it clear maul was the threat and that she was more powerful. You didn't get it.

Facts are facts.

Than Sidious? If she was more powerful why is it she wasn't able to overwhelm him before Dooku stepped in?

Only facts that are relevant should be brought into discussion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Than Sidious? If she was more powerful why is it she wasn't able to overwhelm him before Dooku stepped in?

Only facts that are relevant should be brought into discussion.

Quit ignoring how Sidious embarrassingly died.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Quit ignoring how Sidious embarrassingly died.

And who was it who killed Sidious again? Just remind me.

Maul as a single being wasn't a threat to Sidious - unlike Talzin. It was his alliance with Opress, Death Watch, Hutts, and Black Sun. Without them, Maul wasn't a threat at all, and was only usefull as a bait for a real threat - Talzin. After her death Maul became irrelevant - as Sidious pointed at the end of SoD.

^ Yep. Sidious never went after Maul in "Revival".

But to be fair he was a Rival due to the Power Base he was building up. And due to him taking on an Apprentice. Sidious sensed Both Brothers powers growing (according to Ultimate Star Wars), and that the 2 of them were building up a real power base in the Galaxy.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And who was it who killed Sidious again? Just remind me.

Originally posted by McP
Maul as a single being wasn't a threat to Sidious - unlike Talzin. It was his alliance with Opress, Death Watch, Hutts, and Black Sun. Without them, Maul wasn't a threat at all, and was only usefull as a bait for a real threat - Talzin. After her death Maul became irrelevant - as Sidious pointed at the end of SoD.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A one armed Vader without a lightsaber making it all the more embarrassing due to Sidious being the most powerful Sith Lord and the manner in which he was disposed of.

Yes VADER killed Sidious. With 1 hand and no Saber no less. He did what Maul couldn't even come close to doing even WITH HELP 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't even follow a conversation for crying out loud.

Quit ignoring how Sidious embarrassingly died.

You're the one who said Talzin was more powerful than Sidious. It seems once you lose you ***** out. Man up.

Why does it matter?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes VADER killed Sidious. With 1 hand and no Saber no less. He did what Maul couldn't even come close to doing even WITH HELP 😂

Burrrrrrn. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes VADER killed Sidious. With 1 hand and no Saber no less. He did what Maul couldn't even come close to doing even WITH HELP 😂

😂