Sidious and Vader vs. Yoda and Mace Windu

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Her best is her best and now you're here, Dathomir
, Talzin has been known, as well as Getherizon to perform feats beyond the normal scale. Show the scan. I can show you the same scan where it says she could be weakened.

It's one of those things that you know. Dathomir is a nexus. Ventress even says in Dark Disciple that this place is linked with the dark side. Every part of it.

So conjecture is when he is seen blocking and taking other attacks from the same person and Dooku.

So if it's linked with he dark side you can't claim Sidious would not except there either. 😂

Conjecture is saying he can take him on without his endangered allies as a distraction present.

Originally posted by McP
Could is a key word here. Perhaps she was weakened. And perhaps not. But the sure thing is, that she was amped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Her best doesn't include an amp. There is no scan to suggest she's amped in that story.

So if it's linked with he dark side you can't claim Sidious would not except there either. 😂

Conjecture is saying he can take him on without his endangered allies as a distraction present.

Her best is her best. Best means at your most powerful. Amps are included in that. HEART OF HER POWER. Where is yours saying she was weakened?

Considering its her planet, she would be able to abuse it's power more than any other Jedi or Sith who uses the dark side.

No it's not. He did. He went toe to toe with Yoda on his own merit. He lasted as long as he did by his own skill.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Her best is her best. Best means at your most powerful. Amps are included in that. HEART OF HER POWER. Where is yours saying she was weakened?

Considering its her planet, she would be able to abuse it's power more than any other Jedi or Sith who uses the dark side.

No it's not. He did. He went toe to toe with Yoda on his own merit. He lasted as long as he did by his own skill.

It's a nexus for the dark side so Sidious benefits as well. Your evidence just backfired on you, kiddo.

Nah, you ignore the facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't. That's an amp. She got a body back and after that process it never said her power was amplified but quite the opposite.

It's a nexus for the dark side so Sidious benefits as well. Your evidence just backfired on you, kiddo.

Nah, you ignore the facts.

Where? Post it.

Actually no since Talzin has demonstrated feats outside the normal force weilders abilities on Dathomir. She has achieved force storms I believe, even that force maelstrom ability, something no one else has done. Trust me, my evidence does t backfire on me.

No, you just lost so you're making up excuses.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Where? Post it.

Actually no since Talzin has demonstrated feats outside the normal force weilders abilities on Dathomir. She has achieved force storms I believe, even that force maelstrom ability, something no one else has done. Trust me, my evidence does t backfire on me.

No, you just lost so you're making up excuses.

So you ignore that it's a nexus for the dark side and instead admit she's greater than Palpatine in general in power. I agree.

Irony.

Vader and Sidious for sure. Too strong with the darkside.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the comic.

So you ignore that it's a nexus for the dark side and instead admit she's greater than Palpatine in general in power. I agree.

Irony.

Post it. I've read the comment and it never says she was weakened. The comic is actually in YouTube so you can look through there and find it.

I agree is a Dark Side Nexus so it would help Sidious as well. Ow ever this Nexus would help her more than Sidious, due to this being her own planet, her even saying she is not like any other Sith or Jedi. Her planet woudl also be affected by this. So with that she would get the greater amp, and she still wasn't able to overpower Sidious. If that proves anything it proves Sidious is greater, as Talzin had a bigger amp and yet she still couldn't win.

Not really. You ignore facts when it suits you, then use irrelevant ones to prove your claims, but it doesn't work.

Kek @Quan, Dathomir is strong with dark ichor not actually the Dark Side itself, no reason to believe he would be amped by what is repeatedly referred to as the place of Talzin's power.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Post it. I've read the comment and it never says she was weakened. The comic is actually in YouTube so you can look through there and find it.

I agree is a Dark Side Nexus so it would help Sidious as well. Ow ever this Nexus would help her more than Sidious, due to this being her own planet, her even saying she is not like any other Sith or Jedi. Her planet woudl also be affected by this. So with that she would get the greater amp, and she still wasn't able to overpower Sidious. If that proves anything it proves Sidious is greater, as Talzin had a bigger amp and yet she still couldn't win.

Not really. You ignore facts when it suits you, then use irrelevant ones to prove your claims, but it doesn't work.

But unlike Talzin Sidious wouldn't be weakened by gaining a body back. She had no amp and the comic states otherwise.

I have ignored nothing in the comic and ironically it's you making up things not in the story.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Kek @Quan, Dathomir is strong with dark ichor not actually the Dark Side itself, no reason to believe he would be amped by what is repeatedly referred to as the place of Talzin's power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The comic states that nowhere does it say she was amped.

But unlike Talzin Sidious wouldn't be weakened by gaining a body back. She had no amp and the comic states otherwise.

I have ignored nothing in the comic and ironically it's you making up things not in the story.

Then post it and prove it. I've read the comic and no where does it says she's weakened while it makes it perfectly clear she could be amped. This is then reinforced by Dark Disciple and that Talzin has performed feats on Dathomir tha Moshe hasn't done anywhere else, or,seen other force weilders do.

She wasn't weakened until you prove it. If and this a big if. IF she was weakened it would be when she got Dooku's body not her own.

Yes you are. You're ignoring that the comic never says she was weakened and ignoring that Talzin would be amped by the planet more than anyone else.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Then post it and prove it. I've read the comic and no where does it says she's weakened while it makes it perfectly clear she could be amped. This is then reinforced by Dark Disciple and that Talzin has performed feats on Dathomir tha Moshe hasn't done anywhere else, or,seen other force weilders do.

She wasn't weakened until you prove it. If and this a big if. IF she was weakened it would be when she got Dooku's body not her own.

Yes you are. You're ignoring that the comic never says she was weakened and ignoring that Talzin would be amped by the planet more than anyone else.

You've already see the scan so why would I post it again ?

False, and you already admitted Palpatine gets an amp. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it doesn't. You are lying.

You've already see the scan so why would I post it again ?

False, and you already admitted Palpatine gets an amp. 😂

Prove it? Show where the comic says she was weakened. I have more than proven she was amped. Where is your proof.

Because it never says she was weakened. Post exactly what here it says she was weakened. It's on YouTube so you can use that if you need to.

Not to the same extent. 😂 Good try.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Prove it? Show where the comic says she was weakened. I have more than proven she was amped. Where is your proof.

Because it never says she was weakened. Post exactly what here it says she was weakened. It's on YouTube so you can use that if you need to.

Not to the same extent. 😂 Good try.

You already admitted an amp. You conceded to me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, as the co is clearly states weakened not amped. Find the word amped one time.

You already admitted an amp. You conceded to me.

Where? Post it. Find where it says she was weakened one time and show it. Saying it, doesn't prove anything. I can post the comic where it says heart of her power.

So? Doesn't mean she doesn't get a larger one. Umm I never have, and never will concede to you.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Where? Post it. Find where it says she was weakened one time and show it. Saying it, doesn't prove anything. I can post the comic where it says heart of her power.

So? Doesn't mean she doesn't get a larger one. Umm I never have, and never will concede to you.

You already did when you agreed Palpatine gets an amp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Heart of her power doesn't mean amped and the panel I am referring to was after the circumstances of her acquiring a body.

You already did when you agreed Palpatine gets an amp.

Show the damn panel. It's on YouTube, just send it here and show the panel. Heart of her power means at her strongest which eliminates anything of her being weakened. Then when you take what Ventress says in Dark disciple, this being Talzin's planets, known who she is, and that she has performed powerful feats here that she now ally wouldn't elsewhere, it's clear that she was amped.

Doesn't mean she doesn't get a bigger one. Also I never even disagreed or disregarded that notion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Show the damn panel. It's on YouTube, just send it here and show the panel. Heart of her power means at her strongest which eliminates anything of her being weakened. Then when you take what Ventress says in Dark disciple, this being Talzin's planets, known who she is, and that she has performed powerful feats here that she now ally wouldn't elsewhere, it's clear that she was amped.

Doesn't mean she doesn't get a bigger one. Also I never even disagreed or disregarded that notion.

You have no proof.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You already saw the panel so not doing so. No, that's just her personal best.

You have no proof.

Which panel. I've never seen any pane saying she was weakened.

Heart of her power. Let that sink in.