Originally posted by quanchi112
If it's a nexus for the dark side he would also benefit. No way to deny this since he was the best dark side user we have ever seen thus far.
Unless I am mistakened it has never been called a nexus, in all Disney Canon statements Dathomir is the source of Talzin's power. That power is Dark Ichor not the Dark Side itself. Whilst they are connected on some level, they are not the same thing and Sidious is a lot of things but proficient user of Nightsister magic is certainly not one of them.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you haven't read the comic. Never read anything to say she's amped.At her personal best which isn't an amp.
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I've read it, I never saw anything that says she was weakened. That's the point. That's what you need to prove.
Heart of her power. Where she is strongest. Period. Strongest means, at your absolute best. Like in these threads, they mention if the star forge or Dathomir feats are usable, meaning that is when she is at her most powerful. So here she is on Dathomir, so heart of her power includes the amp.
Originally posted by AncientPowerThen you are incorrect. That's just at her personal best but beyond your personal best is an amp. In this story she was weakened after reacquainting a body.
Unless I am mistakened it has never been called a nexus, in all Disney Canon statements Dathomir is the source of Talzin's power. That power is Dark Ichor not the Dark Side itself. Whilst they are connected on some level, they are not the same thing and Sidious is a lot of things but proficient user of Nightsister magic is certainly not one of them.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Then you are lying.
I've read it, I never saw anything that says she was weakened. That's the point. That's what you need to prove.Heart of her power. Where she is strongest. Period. Strongest means, at your absolute best. Like in these threads, they mention if the star forge or Dathomir feats are usable, meaning that is when she is at her most powerful. So here she is on Dathomir, so heart of her power includes the amp.
At her personal best not beyond her own natural ability. You also think rage disqualifies fights because it's an amp despite it being well within the characters innate power to achieve.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Then you are lying.At her personal best not beyond her own natural ability. You also think rage disqualifies fights because it's an amp despite it being well within the characters innate power to achieve.
You're just hiding. Post the proof, or you concede. It's that simple.
After reevaluation the theme amp can't be used for force weilders in terms of rage. It's a boost since while they can't call it out of no where, it's an ability they can tap of pushed hard enough. Heart of her power. Where she is most powerful. Amp included.
Luke by no means owned Vader on the 2nd Death Star. By that point, Vader was having a massive internal fight with Anakin Skywalker and he wasn't willing to kill his son in any event. He'd rather be struck down. Which is why he uses practically no offensive force powers during that second duel. Even on Bespin, Vader's just kinda messing around. Throwing random crap at Luke? He can do better, he's just testing his son because he can.
That said, if Mace is in Chancellor's Office Vapaad mode, he can hold Sidious long enough for Yoda to curbstomp Vader, who is no match for the Grandmaster.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2You have already seen the prove. No, an emotional state can be used whenever they want to. Vader channels his hatred as does Maul and any competent dark sided.
You're just hiding. Post the proof, or you concede. It's that simple.After reevaluation the theme amp can't be used for force weilders in terms of rage. It's a boost since while they can't call it out of no where, it's an ability they can tap of pushed hard enough. Heart of her power. Where she is most powerful. Amp included.
It's her at her best. Anything less is less than optimal power.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You have already seen the prove. No, an emotional state can be used whenever they want to. Vader channels his hatred as does Maul and any competent dark sided.It's her at her best. Anything less is less than optimal power.
I have never seen where it says she was weakened. I've seen the heart of her power though. No not really if that were the case they would call on it all the time. It's something that they must be pushed to based off showings. Sith channel them in different ways I suppose.
Glad we agree on this one.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2The proof won't ever change as I have evidence and you don't.
I have never seen where it says she was weakened. I've seen the heart of her power though. No not really if that were the case they would call on it all the time. It's something that they must be pushed to based off showings. Sith channel them in different ways I suppose.Glad we agree on this one.
You already conceded Sidious gets an amp there.
That means it's what she is capable of and isn't an amp. Glad you agree with me again.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The proof won't ever change as I have evidence and you don't.You already conceded Sidious gets an amp there.
That means it's what she is capable of and isn't an amp. Glad you agree with me again.
Then show the proof. Saying it says something when I've read it, and I say it never says it, you need to prove me wrong.
Not as much as Talzin though so we agree on that part.
No you didn't say that. You said her power at her height st which can mean the amp.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2You saw the scan.
Then show the proof. Saying it says something when I've read it, and I say it never says it, you need to prove me wrong.Not as much as Talzin though so we agree on that part.
No you didn't say that. You said her power at her height st which can mean the amp.
I disagree. Talzin is at her personal best unamped. Talzin is more powerful than Sidious.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You saw the scan.I disagree. Talzin is at her personal best unamped. Talzin is more powerful than Sidious.
We might no have seen the same scan. I read the actaul comic, not some parody version. No where does it say she was weakened.
No she's amped due to their personal best being in Dathomir which amps her more than anyone else. If she were than why didn't she overpower him on Dathomir?
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2So you're lying.
We might no have seen the same scan. I read the actaul comic, not some parody version. No where does it say she was weakened.No she's amped due to their personal best being in Dathomir which amps her more than anyone else. If she were than why didn't she overpower him on Dathomir?
Prove she was amped in the comic.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2Yes, it said she might be. At no point did it mention an amp.
I've never seen where it says she was weakened, it's never said she was weakened. If so then post it .Your own interpretation. The evidence goes toward her being amped when on Dathomir.
No. That's her normal power.