Originally posted by Mr Master
I understand. But do you agree this doesn't mean the GEB is non-existent?But wasn't Synnar defeated shortly after creating all realities?
Moore depicted the Presence stalemating GEB. Then 2 dozen issues or so we saw them locked in a stalemate again. However there have been more recent instances (Sandman, Spectre v2) where the GEB instance was referenced whilst depicting the Presence active instead of being locked in an eternal stalemate. That tells me that Presence eventually won.
Yes.
Originally posted by operator616Moore depicted the Presence stalemating GEB. Then 2 dozen issues or so we saw them locked in a stalemate again. However there have been more recent instances (Sandman, Spectre v2) where the GEB instance was referenced whilst depicting the Presence active instead of being locked in an eternal stalemate. That tells me that Presence eventually won.
Yes.
You seem to be using logic instead of concrete evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, but, just sayin.
Can you post the last reference so I can read this for self. I'd appreciate it good friend.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I guess, I mean I don't know if that's a definitive stance you're taking.You seem to be using logic instead of concrete evidence. There's nothing wrong with that, but, just sayin.
Can you post the last reference so I can read this for self. I'd appreciate it good friend.
Im not using only that though. That along with the fact that GEB was initially contained makes me think that Presence is GEB's superior.
Im having problems posting scans. the very first page of Spectre v2 #1, letter's page of Spectre #2, and the last page of the '86 JSA special all reference the GEB instance. The spectre v2 series depicts the Presence as being active while also acknowledging that GEB instance happened (in fact it was the very reason why Presence depowered the Spectre). Maybe someone else can post them, but i can't. Ill retry later on.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Exactly ... trolling.
Nah, trolling will be what you're doing with accusing people of having and whatnot.
As pointless as you are, that other dude makes you look tamed.
Damn check this out below ahbi:
Because I'm not really trying.
That's all in this thread alone.
I'm telling you abhi, ... "success breeds hate" ...
... so, my advice to you, remain a troll and avoid these creepy obsessions I'm plagued with.
Aww, did I hurt your feelings? What success? You're on a ****ing message board.
Let go of the ****ing superiority complex while you're ahead.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You'll have to show me where in the next book it was confirmed .... LT > IG.I never read any statement on panel that suggests what you're saying.
Originally posted by zopzop
Not really. Starlin toned down his IG wanking in the very next issue when Warlock admitted the LT's power > IG.
well, i'll let zop show you..... 😖hifty:
Originally posted by operator616Im not using only that though. That along with the fact that GEB was initially contained makes me think that Presence is GEB's superior.
Im having problems posting scans. the very first page of Spectre v2 #1, letter's page of Spectre #2, and the last page of the '86 JSA special all reference the GEB instance. The spectre v2 series depicts the Presence as being active while also acknowledging that GEB instance happened (in fact it was the very reason why Presence depowered the Spectre). Maybe someone else can post them, but i can't. Ill retry later on.
Question friend: What do you mean by the "Presence was still active while acknowledging that GEB instance?"
I'm lost there.
Originally posted by leonidaswell, i'll let zop show you.....
I posted in response what he was referring to, which wasn't in the next story or any W&IW books.
It's actually from "Chronicles" ...
... "The Living Tribunal, the servant of the ONE who is above even Gods."
(Full Page)
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As you can see, Adam is referring to TOAA, not to the LT. 🙂
TOAA > GOD ...
Originally posted by abhilegendHey Zop, remember when TOAA's power aka HOTI Thanos decreed that there will be no resurrections of characters which was unbalancing the universe?
How did it go?
That's how that goes.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I noticed that prior. Good friend Zop was incorrect on that one old buddy.I posted in response what he was referring to, which wasn't in the next story or any W&IW books.
It's actually from "Chronicles" ...
... "The Living Tribunal, the servant [b]of the ONE
who is above even Gods."(Full Page)
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As you can see, Adam is referring to TOAA, not to the LT. 🙂
TOAA > GOD ... [/B]
"Who is above even GodS ".
Not God.
Unless there are several Gods in marvel.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhere was it retconned exactly?
Scans?
Originally posted by abhilegendBwahaha.
"Who is above even GodS ". Not God. Unless there are several Gods in marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
😐 ... I was speaking in general ... funny guy.Grasp the context of the subject matter friend. Anyone who wore the IG was "God." doh
I see.
No, he wasn't. Starlin himself retconned it. IG never granted omnipotence as per Marvel the End. Bleed more.
👆
Originally posted by abhilegendSo no scans, just pulling things out of your ass. As usual then.
I see.
TOAA is the representative avatars of the writers/artists of Marvel. They (writers/artists) ALL make up the same idea. (TOAA)
So obviously when a writer, any writer changes some shit, it's TOAA doing it.
Damn take a break for a sec and just be ... jesus.
Originally posted by abhilegendNo, he wasn't. Starlin himself retconned it.
IG never granted omnipotence as per Marvel the End. Bleed more.
"The Infinity Gauntlet granted me mastery of all Time, Space, Power, Reality, the Mind and the Soul, but it was external control."
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That seems eerily familiar to Starlin's description of the classic IG.
... "Master ... controller ... of All Time-Space ... Reality" ...
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TOAA's in-universe power (HOTI) > IG
Originally posted by abhilegendjust pulling things out of your ass. As usual then.
The classic IG has it's limits, it was Universal, though affecting a Universe will logically affect it's timeline. Also the user was never omnipotent, else there would be no challange and no one could beat it, yet it was clear that LT would have beaten it, so no omnipotence whatsoever. The HOTU was also not the power of TOAA truth be told, it was inferior, it granted Omnipotence in it's native Universe but not omniscience, the power of a real superior being is omniscience and omnipotence, Thanos even with the HOTU lacked the Omniscience as he wasnt aware that he was played for a fool, used like a tool by TOAA and that Death and Warlock, who were outside of the Universe, were existing etc. So no, he couldn't predict the outcome, he wasn't aware of everything, he was simply not omniscient, just had more power/control or semi-omnipotence in his native Universe.
Originally posted by Mr Master
You must be referring to this:... "The Living Tribunal, the servant [b]of the ONE
who is above even Gods."(Full Page for the haters) .. not u Zop.
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As you can see, Adam is referring to TOAA, not to the LT. 🙂
TOAA > GOD ...
Now, as a direct representative of TOAA's power, yes, eventually, the LT would've won. [/B]
I was under the impression that when they said Gods in plural, it meant Gods like Odin, Thor, Zeus and not The God.
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