master Zao vs Yoda, philosophical discussion only

Started by redpill13 pages
Originally posted by Aurbere
Only the Chosen One can do that 👆

The light side of the Force was the facet aligned with compassion, selflessness, self-knowledge and enlightenment, healing, mercy and benevolence, while the dark side of the Force was the element aligned with hatred, fear, covetousness, anger, aggression, jealousy and malevolence.

remember what happened to pong krell?

if zao was grand master of jedi order would pong krell would have happened? order 66?

Originally posted by redpill
yoda asked all the jedi to serve the sith under the guise of emperor palpatine

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Are you actually saying these words?

Originally posted by redpill
The light side of the Force was the facet aligned with compassion, selflessness, self-knowledge and enlightenment, healing, mercy and benevolence, while the dark side of the Force was the element aligned with hatred, fear, covetousness, anger, aggression, jealousy and malevolence.

remember what happened to pong krell?

if zao was grand master of jedi order would pong krell would have happened? order 66?

You keep bringing up Order 66 and saying that wouldn't have happened if Zao was followed. Well duh. But if Zao had been followed the Order would have been wiped out by the Imperial armada. So what's your point? Zao isn't saving any lives by hiding. He's only changing how the Jedi get massacred. 😬

He also made some great soup, as DMB pointed out.

Well this guy doesn't much care for his soup.

Yeah soup is the one category where Zao absolutely shitstomps Yoda.

point is if Zao and Yoda switched places and Zao was grand master and held great sway, he would have NOT had any jedi participate in the clone wars. no jedi generals leading clone troopers. he would not involve the jedi in the clone wars. whoever was leading the grand army of the republic it would not be jedi.

zao also would not have the jedi serve the republic as he saw it was corrupt.

butterfly that.

Originally posted by Aurbere
Well this guy doesn't much care for his soup.

You sound like a h8r ass *****.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah soup is the one category where Zao absolutely shitstomps Yoda.

uhh zao is clear soup is a spiritual force-based practice as much as light saber combat and force lightening 😂 😂 😂 soup is about balance in the force

so in effect zao making better soup than yoda is not all that different thtan saying zao has better light saber combat skills - both are force based practices

I did 'butterfly that' and the answer is still the same. The Jedi would have been destroyed by an armada rather than their own troops.

Not to mention that Zao leading the Jedi would have made a Sith takeover so easy. He practically hands the Sith the galaxy. He wouldn't have even tried to fight Palpatine or Vader. How is that wise?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You sound like a h8r ass *****.

At this point, I don't care 😛

Originally posted by Aurbere
I did 'butterfly that' and the answer is still the same. The Jedi would have been destroyed by an armada rather than their own troops.

Not to mention that Zao leading the Jedi would have made a Sith takeover so easy. He practically hands the Sith the galaxy. He wouldn't have even tried to fight Palpatine or Vader. How is that wise?

would anakin even fall to the dark side to become vader?

zao would not involve the jedi in the clone wars does not mean jedi would act in self-defense if directly attacked.

how would jedi be worse off if they refused to participate in the clone wars as generals under zao from how it actually did turn out under yoda?

Originally posted by redpill
would anakin even fall to the dark side to become vader?

Yes.

zao would not involve the jedi in the clone wars does not mean jedi would act in self-defense if directly attacked.

They would still die.

how would jedi be worse off if they refused to participate in the clone wars as generals under zao from how it actually did turn out under yoda?

Because all of the Imperial propaganda about how the Jedi are taking over would be even that much more believable.

Not that you aren't just doing some Revanchiste-tier trolling at this point with "soap = lightsaber skillz."

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Not that you aren't just doing some Revanchiste-tier trolling at this point with "soap = lightsaber skillz."

I really hope he's not trolling. I don't like wasting my time.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yes.

They would still die.

Because all of the Imperial propaganda about how the Jedi are taking over would be even that much more believable.

Not that you aren't just doing some Revanchiste-tier trolling at this point with "soap = lightsaber skillz."

i don't think its a foregone conclusion if zao was grand master from before TPM and guiding it that anakin falls. if u watch tcw a lot of battles he is in fuels anakins rage and anger. zao would not have any jedi participate in a battle for the republic.

spiritual practices isn't limited only to light saber combat.

in karate kid mr miyagi was trying to catch flies with chop sticks as a way to learn concerntration and patience

Originally posted by Aurbere
I really hope he's not trolling. I don't like wasting my time.

You're wasting your time either way tbh

Originally posted by Aurbere
I really hope he's not trolling. I don't like wasting my time.

I mean just read this. Only trolls and autists talk this way. I believe both.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
You're wasting your time either way tbh

I suppose you're right, but I've got nothing better to do right now. 😛

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I mean just read this. Only trolls and autists talk this way. I believe both.

takes one to know one.

can you explain to me how if zao's philosophy of the force was in place for the jedi before TPM, and that the jedi refused to serve as generals and fighters for the republic, instead as pacifists, healers, diplomats, but no war or combat of any kind, they would be any worse off than how things happened under yoda's direction?

under zao, anakin pong krell quinlan vos bariss offee would not see any combat. instead they and all the jedi would focus their meditation to maintaining balance in the force or trying to align the force to the light side only.

Dear Galactic Republic,

We hope this finds you well. While we understand that it is our sworn duty to defend and protect you from the Sith and all threats to a peaceful life in the galaxy, we are far too busy making soup and meditating to actually do anything. Our best wishes,

the Holy Order of the Jedi Knights

P.S. Good luck.

P.P.S. Please keep feeding us and sending recruits.