Kylo Ren vs Darth Vader

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Originally posted by Lord Stark
Agreed! There's also this notion of him being pained by the death of Qui-Gon (who he viewed as a son) and even in the ROTS novel he still wants to save Kenobi because of the grandfatherly feelings he has towards him.

Dooku is the most developed villain in Star Wars sans perhaps only Vader.

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Kylo Ren >>Darth Vader > Count Dooku.

Prof. T.C McAbe Kryptonian Scientist

Darth Vader wins, in a major spite fashion, Kylo is still a noob, below a Obi-Wan Padawan and Rookie Luke.

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

Naw, he was pretty legit. His Force powers were more advanced than most people in the new canon. It took Anakin, Obi-Wan and Windu to force Cad Bane to give up info. Kylo broke Poe solo. And his freezing ability was fuggin sick.

Rookie Luke wouldn't have been able to stand after getting a direct hit from Chewies bowcaster, let alone go 2 rounds back to back.

Sinious Yo Da Best

Originally posted by Nephthys
And his freezing ability was fuggin sick.
Since when TKing non force users is impressive?

Nephthys The Gr8est!!!!!!!!

He froze Rey, actually. I was more talking about freezing the blaster bolt effortlessly. No-ones ever done that.

Sinious Yo Da Best

How are you so certain about what he did to Rey?

The blaster bolt freezing was indeed very impressive. 👆

McP Senior Member

It was, indeed. But, on the other hand, he has bad showings as well, and he never used that against a Force users. Perhaps it will be useless against them.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Darth Vader wins, in a major spite fashion, Kylo is still a noob, below a Obi-Wan Padawan and Rookie Luke.
The scary thing is his Lightsaber skills will dramatically improve after Snoke completes his training.

Kylo still wins this with only one film under his belt.

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quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Sinious
Since when TKing non force users is impressive?
His force powers were more impressive than anyone in the older films. Freezing that blaster bolt in the opening scene made all of what they did look weak in direct comparison. That's called reflexes, boy.

Sinious Yo Da Best

lol I like how we already have people saying Kylo > Sidious / Yoda

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

The only person saying that is quan.

The_Tempest Senior Member

Kylo freezing the blaster bolt was cool, as was his TK-freezing of

Spoiler:
Poe and Rey
. But the movie flat out tells us that one of Kylo's greatest fears is that he'll
Spoiler:
never be as powerful as Vader
and he himself prays to Vader's mask to
Spoiler:
show him the power of the dark side
.

Canon!Vader absolutely beats Kylo's ass. Not even close.

Beniboybling Worst Member

👆 I thought that would be obvious.

Lord Stark Lord of Winterfell
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The only person saying that is quan.

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Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Kylo freezing the blaster bolt was cool, as was his TK-freezing of
Spoiler:
Poe and Rey
. But the movie flat out tells us that one of Kylo's greatest fears is that he'll
Spoiler:
never be as powerful as Vader
and he himself prays to Vader's mask to
Spoiler:
show him the power of the dark side
.

Canon!Vader absolutely beats Kylo's ass. Not even close.

This.

Darth Thor Senior Member
Originally posted by Nephthys
It took Anakin, Obi-Wan and Windu to force Cad Bane to give up info.

But Vader did extract information from fully trained Luke's mind in ROTJ.

It's the controlling people that requires more than 1 Jedi if the target is very strong willed.

ares834 Senior Member

They were trying to get info from him.

FreshestSlice Eternal Commander

Still, there are techniques to resist the effects. It's not unlikely that Bane knew a few and Luke didn't use them for obvious reasons.

ares834 Senior Member

I doubt a muggle such as Cad Bane would know them.