Originally posted by Kazenji
Yes....because George Lucas would never copy his movies like Abrams did.. 🙄and i'm not talking about some of the dialogue that gets repeated/reused.
Not to the extent Abrams did. No.
He might repeat "themes" but not whole plot points. He was Very Original with every SW film he made, whether people like them or not, that's pretty undeniable tbh.
Originally posted by Darth ThorIn the video I linked, Lucas made DIRECT comparisons (read, "rip-offs"😉 to how in Phantom Menace, Anakin was basically Luke. He was a boy on a desert planet that had a great destiny. He gets pushed along by an Older Jedi to go on a quest to become a Jedi. He then displays that he's "Not such bad pilot himself" and wins a pod race. Teams up with a "comic relief" character (Jar Jar) and a brash young man (Obi-Wan) and a beautiful Princess (Amidala) Then he ultimately saves the day by destroying the droid control ship (Death Star). Yah, there are more similarities ("rip-offs"😉 in The Phantom Menace...but those are some main ones. Episode 1 was SOOO original.
Not to the extent Abrams did. No.He might repeat "themes" but not whole plot points. He was Very Original with every SW film he made, whether people like them or not, that's pretty undeniable tbh.
Originally posted by queeqRots is a great film. It isn't perfect but the ot's acting across the board in various parts is cringe worthy. The dialogue with Palpatine and Anakin is also golden.
ROTS has a lot, a LOT of boring stuff too... All three films suffer from the same dull approach. Ya know: talking and walking, talking and sitting...
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
In the video I linked, Lucas made DIRECT comparisons (read, "rip-offs"😉 to how in Phantom Menace, Anakin was basically Luke. He was a boy on a desert planet that had a great destiny. He gets pushed along by an Older Jedi to go on a quest to become a Jedi. He then displays that he's "Not such bad pilot himself" and wins a pod race. Teams up with a "comic relief" character (Jar Jar) and a brash young man (Obi-Wan) and a beautiful Princess (Amidala) Then he ultimately saves the day by destroying the droid control ship (Death Star). Yah, there are more similarities ("rip-offs"😉 in The Phantom Menace...but those are some main ones. Episode 1 was SOOO original.
TPM was about the occupation of a planet, the "Resurgence" of a thousand year old enemy, the "Discovery" of a boy with Massive potential, a corrupt political system, and turning to the comic relief character to form an alliance with his people to save the original planet under threat.
It was Very Very different to film to ANH and Very Original.
Having "Parallels" and Repeating certain "Themes" is not the same thing as copying the basic Plot and Setting from another film.
Originally posted by Darth ThorNew coats of paint don't disguise what I already outlined...the vast similarities between ANH and TPM.
TPM was about the occupation of a planet, the "Resurgence" of a thousand year old enemy, the "Discovery" of a boy with Massive potential, a corrupt political system, and turning to the comic relief character to form an alliance with his people to save the original planet under threat.
No it wasn't. It wasn't VERY original. Again, George Lucas even talks about the similarities between the films in that video I linked.
It was Very Very different to film to ANH and Very Original.
So, it's parallels when you want it to be and rip-offs when referring to TFA? Interesting.
Having "Parallels" and Repeating certain "Themes" is not the same thing as copying the basic Plot and Setting from another film.
The Phantom Menace: AKA A New Hope
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/my-first-viewing-of-star-wars-i/
Originally posted by quanchi112
Rots is a great film. It isn't perfect but the ot's acting across the board in various parts is cringe worthy. The dialogue with Palpatine and Anakin is also golden.
ROTS is a deeply flawed movie. On many levels, not just acting and dialogue. It fails on structure, motivation, reasons why things happen, reaction to dramatic moments (or better yet: the lack of reaction)... the list goes on. A lot here is obsolete and just like AOCT it fails horribly on the crucial story element of the film. In this case: the fall of Anakin to the Dark Side.
This whole movie makes Anakin look like a dumb idiot that has only one emotion: anger. And is far from 'a good friend."
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
New coats of paint don't disguise what I already outlined...the vast similarities between ANH and TPM.No it wasn't. It wasn't VERY original. Again, George Lucas even talks about the similarities between the films in that video I linked. So, it's parallels when you want it to be and rip-offs when referring to TFA? Interesting.
Seems you're just covering your eyes and ears, so really don't know what else to say to you at this point, except not only does TPM have a completely different plot to ANH, but introduces us to completely different new worlds, aliens and ships. It's a very Imaginative and Original film. Unlike TFA.
It is true that the Anakin bits do resemble Luke's story but it is downplayed because Anakin is not the main character of TPM, Qui-Gon and Padme are.
If the nods to the original in TFA actively took people out of the movie(it did for me at least) then it is a valid complaint against the story. It means your attention is divided between a movie you're watching and thoughts about a movie you used to watch.