Current Superman and Thor vs Runner...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
3) As pertains TP, Surfer has great resistance to mental attacks; the fact that Runners aura was affecting Surfer despite his great mental fortitude is a testament to the strength of Runners "like me" aura...

Originally posted by zopzop
Also keep in mind that many Thor fans were saying Tutinax's 'fear aura' played a major role in his utter humiliation of Thor (on at least two different occasions). So on panel, one of the contestants in this thread has been shown to be vulnerable to emotion 'auras'.

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Originally posted by Philosophía
He beat the Surfer.

Given how 99% of the Marvel fans furiously jack off to that character, you must see how Runner must be the best shit ever.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Well he's got some other feats to his name that are pretty good:

1) Beating up Thanos (while Thanos had 3 Gems to Runners 1); true he had the Space Gem, but he never used it during the beating (no teleportation occured [according to Thanos, Runner would sometimes use the Gem subconsciously to teleport; according to Thanos, the Gem did NOT make Runner faster]; Runner was owning Thanos with nothing but his own natural speed and combat agility)...

2) Rendering a bonafide Trans character (Collector) completely helpless before his wrath during the Thanos Quest...

3) Granting Moon Dragon Invulnerability on a whim...

4) His likability aura was working on Surfer, and Surfer has demonstrated planetary level TP on panel (his aura was working on Moondragon as well and she's a pretty decent telepath)...

5) He hasnt been overpowered by (let alone taken any damage from; Surfer's attacks literally had no visible effect on him whatsoever) anything less than Galactus...

Runner is quite formidible...

And you don't have to be super duper ultra powerful to shrug off Surfer's energy blasts. In the same series a random monster who Surfer himself said was less powerful than him was shrugging off his most powerful attacks like nothing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

That creature didnt nearly kill Surfer while toying with him like Runner did though...

Originally posted by abhilegend
So just that? Superman beats the shit out of him.

And you don't have to be super duper ultra powerful to shrug off Surfer's energy blasts. In the same series a random monster who Surfer himself said was less powerful than him was shrugging off his most powerful attacks like nothing.

This doesn't change the fact that on average, Runner is stronger than Supes...

Sorry, but average Supes isnt no saling a Surfer blast...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
That creature didnt nearly kill Surfer while toying with him like Runner did though...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
This doesn't change the fact that on average, Runner is stronger than Supes...

Sorry, but average Supes isnt no saling a Surfer blast...

Why not? Savage hulk has no sold Surfer's energy shots before.

And yes, Surfer was weakened. Here in the very next issue, he says how he participated in the fight against Korvac.

And Champion states that he was weakened by that fight.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer was weakened. A planet fall almost killed him.

You force me to repost the same scans refruting this lie...

I will do so once again when I get home...but your line is 100% false...Runner threw Surfer into the planet nearly killing him.

Surfer didnt fall....

As for CURRENT Supes no saling Surfers energy, do I really need to post multiple scans showing him being hurt by far less?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And yes, Surfer was weakened. Here in the very next issue, he says how he participated in the fight against Korvac.

And Champion states that he was weakened by that fight.

Champ claimed that...

Surfer never did; Surfer owned it as a loss to a superior opponent...

I'll post a scan of this as well when I get home...

And as your scan shows, Champ said that because Surfer embarrassed him with ease...

Fact of the matter is that (especially when you consider the time between the Korvac encounter and the rate at which we've seen Surfer recover on panel) is that there is no evidence of Surfer being weakened when fighting Runner...

Surfer claimed no weakness before, during, or after the fight...

Champs OPINION of Surfers power level is meaningless as he's been shown to be an overrated buffon over and over again...

So that's that...

:-)

Originally posted by abhilegend

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You force me to repost the same scans refruting this lie...

I will do so once again when I get home...but your line is 100% false...Runner threw Surfer into the planet nearly killing him.

Surfer didnt fall....

As for CURRENT Supes no saling Surfers energy, do I really need to post multiple scans showing him being hurt by far less?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Champ claimed that...

Surfer never did; Surfer owned it as a loss to a superior opponent...

I'll post a scan of this as well when I get home...

Originally posted by zopzop
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Didn't IG Thanos create that creature SPECIFICALLY to toy with Surfer? So this shouldn't be used against Surfer.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
And as your scan shows, Champ said that because Surfer embarrassed him with ease...

Fact of the matter is that (especially when you consider the time between the Korvac encounter and the rate at which we've seen Surfer recover on panel) is that there is no evidence of Surfer being weakened when fighting Runner...

Surfer claimed no weakness before, during, or after the fight...

Champs OPINION of Surfers power level is meaningless as he's been shown to be an overrated buffon over and over again...

So that's that...

:-)

No "Lord of lies" to bail out here. Surfer was weakened. Full stop.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What lie? Do you have any proof that Champion was lying?

Yes. There is nothing to suggest it wasn't true.

Yes, it was still less powerful than Surfer as stated.
You are once again refuting on panel statements as it suits you.

No "Lord of lies" to bail out here. Surfer was weakened. Full stop.

One of the Elders in the next panel calls Champ to the carpet on having his feeling hurt by getting owned by Surfer; so there was plenty of incentive for Champ to say what he said...

And yes, there is plenty to suggest it wasnt true; Surfer never claimed weakness when he kicked Champs butt (which Surfer did pretty easily; he clearly didnt expend much energy if you actually read the fight), never claimed weakness before facing Runner, never claimed during his fight against Runner, and never claimed it when he lay dying because of the a$$ kicking Runner gave him...

Surfer had no appearance of weakness during his fight against Runner...

So yeah, all signs point to Champ being FoS...

Besides the Surfer owned the loss as a loss to a superior opponent...

Thus your argument fails...

Besides, to add fuel to the fact that Runner is clearly superior to Surfer, how do you explain Runner owning someone (Thanos) that has beaten Surfer like a rag doll?

Give it up Abhi...all signs point to Runner being clearly superior to Surfer; Surfer's fight against Runner fully correlates with this...why argue it?

@abhi

Runners average is beyond Surfers, beyond Thors, and beyond that of Current Superman's...

Why argue against it?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
One of the Elders in the next panel calls Champ to the carpet on having his feeling hurt by getting owned by Surfer; so there was plenty of incentive for Champ to say what he said...

And yes, there is plenty to suggest it wasnt true; Surfer never claimed weakness when he kicked Champs butt (which Surfer did pretty easily; he clearly didnt expend much energy if you actually read the fight), never claimed weakness before facing Runner, never claimed during his fight against Runner, and never claimed it when he lay dying because of the a$$ kicking Runner gave him...

Surfer had no appearance of weakness during his fight against Runner...

So yeah, all signs point to Champ being FoS...

Besides the Surfer owned the loss as a loss to a superior opponent...

Thus your argument fails...

Besides, to add fuel to the fact that Runner is clearly superior to Surfer, how do you explain Runner owning someone (Thanos) that has beaten Surfer like a rag doll?

Give it up Abhi...all signs point to Runner being clearly superior to Surfer; Surfer's fight against Runner fully correlates with this...why argue it?

Try again.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@abhi

Runners [b]average is beyond Surfers, beyond Thors, and beyond that of Current Superman's...

Why argue against it? [/B]

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not a proof that Champion was lying.

Try again.
Because it isn't.

Yes it is; Champ was pulling stuff out of his rear end to make himself feel better and look better infront of the other Elders...

Why?

Because Runner crushed someone who kicked Champs butt with ease...

Besides, the more obvious proof is how would he know if Surfer was weakened? Champ has never demonstrated the ability to sense anothers power level...ever.

So yeah, he was just talking out of his a$$...

Surfer owned the loss...

Why cant you abhi?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not a proof that Champion was lying.

Try again.
Because it isn't.

Oh yeah, and Runners average is far greater than that of current Superman's...

Runner has never been harmed (or overpowered) by anyone less than a full strength Galactus and includes a fight against one who is arguably the top High Herald in comics and others who are full fledge Trans Tier characters...

So yeah, Runners average is far greater than that of Surfer, Thor, or Superman's...

Runner is repeatly portrayed as one is clearly beyond Herald...

Just accept the truth of this abhi...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Yes it is;
.

No, it is not. Glad we established that.

I've no interest in your make believe theories.

Come to me when you have any proof.