Originally posted by Juntai
Fair enough. But as we can't apply a no limit fallacy to him, he's merely greater than Surfer, but that's not enough to beat two beings with greater feats and greater victories.
These two beings also have lesser feats and have both had humiliation rained down upon them as well...
We argue averages for that very reason...
Thor/Current Supes average...High Heralds.
Runners average...strong Trans.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSee, that's the thing you guys are forgetting: toward the end of their encounter, Starlin made it clear that Thanos had been feigning weakness against Runner:
Well we know that Thanos took the option to talk rather than being beaten to grape jelly...so that says something.
Starlin also made it clear that Runner's speed is the only thing that saved him from Thanos(implying that Thanos was more powerful.)
Originally posted by Galan007
See that's the thing you guys are ignoring: Starlin made it clear that Thanos was feigning weakness the entire time:Starlin also made it clear that Runner's speed is the only thing that saved him from Thanos(which implies that Thanos was more powerful.)
I disagree...
Thanos needed time to get a fix on Runner with the Time Gem; talking gave him his opportunity to do that...
As we saw in the comic, Thanos had no chance in direct combat as he couldnt reach him and couldnt hit him; direct combat was a no go for Thanos against Runner...
Originally posted by Galan007
Starlin also made it clear that Runner's speed is the only thing that saved him from Thanos(implying that Thanos was more powerful.)
Sure, his speed was the only thing saving him from a Thanos with 3 Infinity Gems (at that point Soul, Power, and Time)...
Being fast enough to save yourself from a Trans Tier being with 3 Infinity Gems is nothing to be ashamed of...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou gathered all that from Runner blitzing Thanos' chair, eh?
I disagree...Thanos needed time to get a fix on Runner with the Time Gem; talking gave him his opportunity to do that...
As we saw in the comic, Thanos had no chance in direct combat as he couldnt reach him and couldnt hit him; direct combat was a no go for Thanos against Runner...
Originally posted by Galan007👆
See, that's the thing you guys are forgetting: toward the end of their encounter, Starlin made it clear that Thanos had been feigning weakness against Runner:Starlin also made it clear that Runner's speed is the only thing that saved him from Thanos(implying that Thanos was more powerful.)
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Bull...We argue [b]averages
unless otherwise stated in the OP do we not?Runner has 4 significant combat encounters; nearly killing Surfer while toying with him, crushing Collector, being beyond Thanos's ability to combat without the Time Gem, and being overwhelmed by a full strength Galactus...
The average of that takes a fat Sh!t all over the combat average of current Superman and Thor...
So yes, your belief that either beats Runner is total and complete garbage... [/B]
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Thanos attacked Runner once. That's it. Runner dodging said eye-beam certainly doesn't imply that every single ability in Thanos' arsenal would have been ineffective. That said, Starlin made it clear at the end: Thanos allowed Runner to think he'd won so that he'd stop and gloat/monologue long enough for Thanos to deage him with the time gem. Thanos wasn't trying to win beforehand; not really--and he certainly didn't want to risk physically harming Runner. After all, baby Runner was the bargaining chip Thanos used to acquire the reality gem from the Collector. That's why Thanos used the time gem to defeat Runner--it didn't harm him at all, yet left him perfectly helpless as an infant.
Anywho, it's subjective. You cannot prove that Runner could have overpowered Thanos anymore then I can prove he couldn't have.
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And why is it that when someone doesn't agree with you, you start reposting your previous posts and 'thumbs-uping' them? Do you think agreeing with yourself solidifies your point or something? 😕
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThe level of wrong here. ..
Bull...We argue [b]averages
unless otherwise stated in the OP do we not?Runner has 4 significant combat encounters; nearly killing Surfer while toying with him, crushing Collector, being beyond Thanos's ability to combat without the Time Gem, and being overwhelmed by a full strength Galactus...
The average of that takes a fat Sh!t all over the combat average of current Superman and Thor...
So yes, your belief that either beats Runner is total and complete garbage... [/B]
No. Characters use anything in their power. For example, Flash doesn't always go balls out in story, but as its proven in his scope of power, on the forum, he can and will. It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up. This doesn't mean average. It simply the best they are under their own conditions. No powerups or weakened unless specified. This is why Supes is a top dog on the forum.
See, the forum rules defy averages. Otherwise Wally and Barry would be running around mach speed on the forum.
Unlocking Superman and Thor in this manner assures victory, either one the greater in feats and victories here. Certainly they are combined.
Beating a chair doesn't mean anything. He didn't beat Thanos. He didn't have Thanos on the ropes. It was a non-encounter for him. If anything it showed weakness in him, exactly as it was written.
Beating Collector isn't impressive to me. As far as we can gather is Elders are around herald level, give or take. Surfer tooled most of the Elders, though he did get the worse of it a few times. The couple he lost to, he also beat, save Runner who he didn't have another battle with.
Thor has also defeated most of them.
Even She Hulk has beat champion
Gladiator has beat a few.
Beta Ray Bill.
Etc.
Most of their appearances have them losing over and over.
^ His armor was ruffled as collateral damage from being tossed around in Runner's wake, imo.
For completions sake, here's their entire battle:
From what we can tell, all of Runner's attacks targeted Thanos' chair; not Thanos himself.
But even if you think otherwise, it changes nothing. Thanos was purposefully feigning weakness the entire time--allowing Runner to think he'd won.
Originally posted by Galan007👆
^ His armor was ruffled as collateral damage from being tossed around in Runner's wake, imo.For completions sake, here's their entire battle:
From what we can tell, all of Runner's attacks targeted Thanos' chair; not Thanos himself.
But even if you think otherwise, it changes nothing. Thanos was purposefully feigning weakness the entire time.
Originally posted by Inhuman
The argument for Runner not actually throwing Surfer to the planet actually looks better for Runner.
Why? Surfer wasn't dying from his attacks. He started dying after falling to the planet.
The throw or impact didn't do much to Surfer. What almost killed Surfer was Runner out powering Surfer in their contest of strength.
How does outpowering someone kills them?
After that Surfers, limp almost lifeless body fell or was thrown to the nearby planet.
Haha, no.
Good job Abhi 👆Based on Abhis contributions to the thread Runner should have no problem with these 2
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Go troll BvS threads.
