Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes you are and everybody knows it.
Prove it. Let's analysis some moves from the clips. If you are right then the speed of the moves in the clips will be the proof.

I've already posted the proof, you just refuse to acknowledge it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. Let's analysis some moves from the clips. If you are right then the speed of the moves in the clips will be the proof.

Here is the click for the fuqing millionth time.
Start watching @ 2:05
Now post of click of Ozy fighting faster with an opponent.
Also note that WS is fighting a legit superhuman in Cap , not just some peek human that beat up no name fodder.

Let what we see do the talking as to what person fights faster. Don't bring in any real world explanation or personal theories , or any type of speculation into this.
Just based on screen feats.

YouTube video

Ozy fans are being called out.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Here is the click for the fuqing millionth time.
Start watching @ 2:05
Now post of click of Ozy fighting faster with an opponent.
Also note that WS is fighting a legit superhuman in Cap , not just some peek human that beat up no name fodder.

Let what we see do the talking as to what person fights faster. Don't bring in any real world explanation or personal theories , or any type of speculation into this.
Just based on screen feats.

YouTube video

Only thing i see is WS throws more punches...

Originally posted by Inhuman
Here is the click for the fuqing millionth time.
Start watching @ 2:05
Now post of click of Ozy fighting faster with an opponent.
Also note that WS is fighting a legit superhuman in Cap , not just some peek human that beat up no name fodder.

Let what we see do the talking as to what person fights faster. Don't bring in any real world explanation or personal theories , or any type of speculation into this.
Just based on screen feats.

YouTube video

YouTube video

Look at 1:36-1:39. The counter 3 move combination that ends with a fast backhand.
Look at 2:48 Rorschach punches with a couple of lightning fast jabs. Ozy blocks them with lightning speed.
At 2:52-2:53 Nite Owl attacks with a lightly quick jab. Ozy parries and counters with a punch almost simultaneously.

Ozy is shown to block and dodge attacks without looking with pin point accuracy. His skill is so great that he goes back and forth defending and attacking them both.

His earlier scenes (against the comedian) has some lightning fast moves too. Comedian was superhumanly strong bring able to punch through solid marble.

Originally posted by h1a8
YouTube video

Look at 1:36-1:39. The counter 3 move combination that ends with a fast backhand.
Look at 2:48 Rorschach punches with a couple of lightning fast jabs. Ozy blocks them with lightning speed.
At 2:52-2:53 Nite Owl attacks with a lightly quick jab. Ozy parries and counters with a punch almost simultaneously.

Ozy is shown to block and dodge attacks without looking with pin point accuracy. His skill is so great that he goes back and forth defending and attacking them both.

His earlier scenes (against the comedian) has some lightning fast moves too. Comedian was superhumanly strong bring able to punch through solid marble.

1:36 looks ok, but again against a normal peak human.
2:52 is slower fighting speed than WS
These examples dont prove Ozy fights faster than WS.
Again WS fighting speed was against a super human. Ozy's against regular guys.

Originally posted by Inhuman
1:36 looks ok, but again against a normal peak human.
2:52 is slower fighting speed than WS
These examples dont prove Ozy fights faster than WS.
Again WS fighting speed was against a super human. Ozy's against regular guys.

What does the opponent have to do with punching speed 😐

Originally posted by h1a8
YouTube video

Look at 1:36-1:39. The counter 3 move combination that ends with a fast backhand.
Look at 2:48 Rorschach punches with a couple of lightning fast jabs. Ozy blocks them with lightning speed.
At 2:52-2:53 Nite Owl attacks with a lightly quick jab. Ozy parries and counters with a punch almost simultaneously.

Ozy is shown to block and dodge attacks without looking with pin point accuracy. His skill is so great that he goes back and forth defending and attacking them both.

His earlier scenes (against the comedian) has some lightning fast moves too. Comedian was superhumanly strong bring able to punch through solid marble.


The most important note here is that hes fighting two opponents simultaneously by countering by both simultaneously.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
What does the opponent have to do with punching speed 😐

Because reacting to normal humans is least impressive that reacting to legit super humans.
So while impressive its still less impressive from what we have seen from WS.
So while they might be blocking each others blows for a bit. WS superior strength will will the fight in the end.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Because reacting to normal humans is least impressive that reacting to legit super humans.
So while impressive its still less impressive from what we have seen from WS.
So while they might be blocking each others blows for a bit. WS superior strength will will the fight in the end.

Your opponent has nothing to do with how fast you punch... 😐

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Your opponent has nothing to do with how fast you punch... 😐

Because punching speed is useless if you can't land blows, and the ability to land blows is greatly dependent on your opponent.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because punching speed is useless if you can't land blows, and the ability to land blows is greatly dependent on your opponent.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking.

So fast punch isn't fast if it doesn't connect? Seriously?

I just contemplated blocking you from the sheer stupidity of that statement

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking.

So fast punch isn't fast if it doesn't connect? Seriously?

I just contemplated blocking you from the sheer stupidity of that statement

Seems like you have reading comprehension difficulties. Let me spell it out for you.

I did not say fast punches aren't fast if they don't connect. I said they're useless if they don't connect. And being able to land blows has as much to do with your opponent's speed as it has to do with yours.

Make sure to read through this properly and make sure you understand it before replying.

Originally posted by Inhuman
1:36 looks ok, but again against a normal peak human.
2:52 is slower fighting speed than WS
These examples dont prove Ozy fights faster than WS.
Again WS fighting speed was against a super human. Ozy's against regular guys.

You're missing the obvious though slapping you right in the face IH, and you are usually good about the bigger picture. It will ALWAYS look faster when you have punches being exchanged and blocked. The sequence will just keep going and flowing and it will appear faster than.... Block 1.. counter and put him down... Block 2 shots... counter and put him down. In every fight sequence Ozy basically blocks 2 attacks, counters, puts the guy down and starts his monologue again. You must realize THAT type of fight sequence is always going to appear slow than a back and forth block fest of exchanging punches. visually one will always appear faster than the other. Doesn't mean WS throws faster punches. It means that fight sequence can and will appear faster than... a block.. counter and sequence over. Agree?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Seems like you have reading comprehension difficulties. Let me spell it out for you.

I did not say fast punches aren't fast if they don't connect. I said they're useless if they don't connect. And being able to land blows has as much to do with your opponent's speed as it has to do with yours.

Make sure to read through this properly and make sure you understand it before replying.

Only since we know Ozy is very skilled, more skilled in h2h than WS, they will likely connect... so luckily we won't have to worry about that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Only since we know Ozy is very skilled, more skilled in h2h than WS, they will likely connect... so luckily we won't have to worry about that.

Unfortunately that's just speculation since Ozy has never been tested against an enhanced opponent.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Seems like you have reading comprehension difficulties. Let me spell it out for you.

I did not say fast punches aren't fast if they don't connect. I said they're useless if they don't connect. And being able to land blows has as much to do with your opponent's speed as it has to do with yours.

Make sure to read through this properly and make sure you understand it before replying.

😂

Os sounds like a complete idiot here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Only since we know Ozy is very skilled, more skilled in h2h than WS, they will likely connect... so luckily we won't have to worry about that.
Baseless claims and speculation based off that. This isn't debating, pinhead.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Seems like you have reading comprehension difficulties. Let me spell it out for you.

I did not say fast punches aren't fast if they don't connect. I said they're useless if they don't connect. And being able to land blows has as much to do with your opponent's speed as it has to do with yours.

Make sure to read through this properly and make sure you understand it before replying.

😆

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because punching speed is useless if you can't land blows, and the ability to land blows is greatly dependent on your opponent.

Yes my reading comprehension is obviously the problem here