Originally posted by Inhuman
Because reacting to normal humans is least impressive that reacting to legit super humans.
So while impressive its still less impressive from what we have seen from WS.
So while they might be blocking each others blows for a bit. WS superior strength will will the fight in the end.
Remember we are judging fighting speed by VISUAL SPEED. Fighting against super-humans is totally irrelevant with that rule. At 2:52 did you see the lightning fast punch Nite Owl tried to hit Ozy with? That attack was faster than anything by WS. Yet Ozy casually parried and countered with an equally fast (or faster) punch.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yup, reading comprehension. For example, nowhere did I say that a fast punch is not fast if it doesn't connect.Like I said, you have comprehension issues.
We know that Ozy's punches are not uselss because he snapped them out without any telegraphing and he managed to hit 2 HIGHLY SKILLED combatants CONSISTENTLY.
Originally posted by h1a8
But what you said derails the discussion. We are debating FIGHTING SPEED.We know that Ozy's punches are not uselss because he snapped them out without any telegraphing and he managed to hit 2 HIGHLY SKILLED combatants CONSISTENTLY.
Correct we are debating fighting speed and part of fighting speed is being able to avoid hits. And that's what I'm discussing.
Ozy hit highly skilled normal humans. And by normal I mean non enhanced. Do you deny this?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Correct we are debating fighting speed and part of fighting speed is being able to avoid hits. And that's what I'm discussing.Ozy hit highly skilled normal humans. And by normal I mean non enhanced. Do you deny this?
No, those characters were superhuman if you look at their feats.
And being superhuman is irrelevant to us using visual speed as exact speed in which a character moves and responds.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You do realise i never talk to you right?
It's Quan, what do you expect? He has zero life, constantly losses argument by being bad at debating, and generally just trolls around the forum. So it's either buffoonery or cheerleading.. You've seen both from him in this thread lol.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What? So the only way to define skill is if you've faced a superhuman? Wuttttttt
No, but it's easy to beat up opponents whom you're vastly superior to. Look how easily WS plowed through BW and Agent 13. Fact is Ozy is untested against someone of equal stats to him.
He didn't Plow through them though did he? Agent 13 landed a blow or two... BW locked him in a hold and landed 3 elbow strikes.... Granted they did next to nothing to WS, but do you actually believe they would've landed a single thing on Ozy? If you're being honest, you would say no. They simply wouldn't land a thing on him. So I beg to differ on the plow through as relates to Ozy, he would've "plowed" through them easier
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't Plow through them though did he? Agent 13 landed a blow or two... BW locked him in a hold and landed 3 elbow strikes.... Granted they did next to nothing to WS, but do you actually believe they would've landed a single thing on Ozy? If you're being honest, you would say no. They simply wouldn't land a thing on him. So I beg to differ on the plow through as relates to Ozy, he would've "plowed" through them easier
I didn't say he was untouched by their attacks. I said he plowed through them. He tanked their attacks, even a groin shot, and just decimated them. Let me ask you, do you think Ozy could have taken a groin shot and not even slow down?
I think Ozy would have probably taken less hits but would also have taken a lot longer to take out BW and Agent 13. He doesn't have the knockout power that WS has. He certainly won't "plow" through them like WS did.
Of course, that's assuming he can keep fighting after a groin shot.
Originally posted by FrothByteBecause didn't fight him. She jumped on his back and tried to strangle him. How would she have faired if they fought h2h?
No, but it's easy to beat up opponents whom you're vastly superior to. Look how easily WS plowed through BW and Agent 13. Fact is Ozy is untested against someone of equal stats to him.
Originally posted by FrothByteI don't recall the showing. But I'm mostly referring to durability. Rorschach did do some super human strength feats though.
Right, because a superhuman like Rosch got overpowerd by some cops.
Anyway, a low showing doesn't make a high showing disappear. If a character has superhuman feats then they are superhuman in ability.
Originally posted by InhumanHis suit is bulletproof. That's more durable than WS. But it doesn't matter as Ozy will not get hit.
Ozy isn't close to being as durable as WS. This was already brought up hundreds of pages ago.