Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
Originally posted by tkitna
I know how you feel. I still can't get over this one:
Cap is a great many things, one thing he not, is an expert martial artist. Cap is a brick. He's a boxer/Military combat kind of guy. He's not doing elaborate moves or kicks or flips while kicking. He's not turning his back and effortlessly blocking strikes while not looking from expert martial artists. To even try and say Cap is some expert marital artist is laughable. He's not. Just look at his fights and you'd see that.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
It's way above just fanboy bias, there isn't enough room to move in an elevator for anyone below Spider-man to avoid getting hit.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
Don't forget about the magnetic cuffs that Ozy would never break out of.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
Incorrect, Ozy would deal with the elevator situation much better and with ease. It's as simple as that. That is just want he does to these level guys. He's much faster than Cap based on feats.. Clearly better and dealing with people attacking him from behind and still not being able to land. Legit peak human skill level guys. Not a hit. Being faster and that skilled means he's doing his monologue while laughing at them and destroying them. It's that simple. You know it I know it.
You ask for feats that Ozy doesn't have, but guess what neither does Cap. Who's the best people Cap fought and won against name somebody stronger, faster and more powerful that Cap beat? Nobody. It's irrelevant to the point. Here's what is important here, the key fights against similar people and how they fared. Let's examine...
Elevator scene for Capf as an example. Ozy has dealt with multiple foes, better foes at the same time and literally laughed at them. His track record against multiple foes is stellar. Cap's on the other hand isn't as stellar. Fact. He's done good, but not as good, as Ozy has done against multiple better foes. Check Ozy
How about against Peak human level skill guys. Let's examine.
Cap has fought WS and Batroc. In both cases they were long drawn out fights. Prolonged fights even. In the situation of the WS, I'll cut him a little more slack. I'll concede he's more formidable than Batroc, and thus it should be harder.. but that hard? Let's go further
Now examine how Batroc did against Cap who was trying to put him down and apprehend him and.. and... had his shield. Still had multiple blows landed on him and it was a long drawn out fight. One could even say Batroc had the advantage early on. He had no shield, and was forcing the action and landing blows.
Then take how a non trying Ozy, non trying is the key here.. he then proceeds to kick the ever long crap out of N.O. and RO without getting one, not one hit landed on him. Are these guys subpar to batroc? No, on the contrary, each of them individually could keep up with batroc h2h and pull wins as well imo. Either. However, lets' say batroc is slightly better than both individually.. well, he's certainly not better than both of them combined. 2 guys as skilled as N.O. and RO. are without question more formindable than Batroc alone (with a shield). Lets' examine how he did... well he didn't have a single fing blow landed on him and look effortless in kicking the crap out of them. As if it was a walk in the park.
How about another peak human and superhuman in some areas Comedian... Did he do worse, did he struggle? Not in any way. He still looked casual in every single thing he did. Casually moving so fast to be right next to Comedian before he coucl fire and react.. even being more than 15 away to start. Effortless. Then proceeds to kick the shit out of the comedian with utter ease. Not even getting hit flush and only got pushed back by a bull rush... then quickly dodged ducked and destroyed him. Efforlessly.
In contrast Cap did get serious, and I will not dispute he just said okay, let me go to this level, and that level dominated batroc. Problem is, Ozy didn't even go to that level. He never ramped it up. He did so effortlessly against more formidable foes.
I concede WS is better than Batroc, but again it was a struggle, and again it wasn't effortless. Again WS is not formindable alone in h2h combat than both RO or NO. or even the comedian. He's simply not. Again Cap struggles, he's trying, he's straining.. Ozy does struggle and he's not even trying. As I said Bucky is formindable, and Cap beat him. He gets loads of credit for it. However, the contrasts in the ease in which they won is the telling thing here.
So now where are we:
Against multiple trained foes - Ozy
Against peak human level foes - again Ozy
Those are what we can compare, not things neither has faced. All you need to do is use logic and common sense and you'll realize the ease in which Ozy did what he did to N.O. and the Comedian... If he really ramped it up, Bucky is ****ed, and that is the bottom line here. He's simply superior based on being better at every single damn thing related to combat. Simple Bucky's good, but he's not Ozy good. Cap showed that, and Ozy would to and by feats, easier.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
Did you miss the part where he let himself get whaled on in the face, and nothing happened? lol. You just seem to forget Ozy is faster than Cap.. he's dodging and catching bullets, and you think tassers are going to concern him lol
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiProve that tasers wouldn't have an effect on him. Onus is on you. When did bullets bounce off of him ? Try to actually correlate your points. Not being shot doesn't mean you are immune to being tased.
Did you miss the part where he let himself get whaled on in the face, and nothing happened? lol. You just seem to forget Ozy is faster than Cap.. he's dodging and catching bullets, and you think tassers are going to concern him lol
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy doesn't have any durability feats to show that he can tank getting tasered. Also, that elevator is too confined a space to think that no one will land a blow on him. I mean sure, an argument can be made that he can win the elevator fight. But to think that not a single hit with land on him is pure fanboy bias.
Did you miss the part where he let himself get whaled on in the face, and nothing happened? lol.
You just seem to forget Ozy is faster than Cap.. he's dodging and catching bullets, and you think tassers are going to concern him lol. I'm convinced you don't realize how fast ozy is, and especially how fast he'd be against non peak human dudes. He would literally, and I mean literally, figure out a way to take out every single one of them as quickly and effortlessly. Visual whatever jumping or throwing or combo sequence you want. You know how fast he is, how high he can jump, how he does with his back turned... Now imagine that against good skilled dudes, not even peak human.. LMAO.. Jesus, he'd do better and you know it
Originally posted by Adam GrimesDoes catching something mean it can't hurt you if you let it hit you ? Take for instance a 90 mile per hour fastball. You can catch it but if it hits you in the head will it hurt you and possibly kill you ? Go ahead and take a moment to process the information, shitbrick.
'Dodging and catching bullets' lol.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiProve it then. You saying he'd do better and you know it isn't debating it's called fanboyism. You're no different than h1 and his ridiculous theories based off nothing other than his bias.
Did you miss the part where he let himself get whaled on in the face, and nothing happened? lol.You just seem to forget Ozy is faster than Cap.. he's dodging and catching bullets, and you think tassers are going to concern him lol. I'm convinced you don't realize how fast ozy is, and especially how fast he'd be against non peak human dudes. He would literally, and I mean literally, figure out a way to take out every single one of them as quickly and effortlessly. Visual whatever jumping or throwing or combo sequence you want. You know how fast he is, how high he can jump, how he does with his back turned... Now imagine that against good skilled dudes, not even peak human.. LMAO.. Jesus, he'd do better and you know it
Originally posted by quanchi112Reading comprehension fail #1.
Does catching something mean it can't hurt you if you let it hit you ? Take for instance a 90 mile per hour fastball. You can catch it but if it hits you in the head will it hurt you and possibly kill you ? Go ahead and take a moment to process the information, shitbrick.
I was mocking him for that statement, hence the lol, DD.
Originally posted by Adam GrimesSo you don't know how to use the quote system and instead just insert random comments. The quote is there for a reason. Kt's is an idiot but your trolling won't be tolerated on my watch.
Reading comprehension fail #1.I was mocking him for that statement, hence the lol, DD.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove that tasers wouldn't have an effect on him. Onus is on you. When did bullets bounce off of him ? Try to actually correlate your points. Not being shot doesn't mean you are immune to being tased.
Please, if you can't comprehend how fast Ozy's reaction and speed is, and by proxy, can't comprehend how this might impact the fight.. then you're dumber than I thought. If you're fast enough to catch a bullet effortlessly. If you're shown dodging fire in a confined hallway, and still effortlessly moving around the hallway avoiding fire and then disarm the guy. If you're fast enough to cover so much ground that you can literally jump 25 feet effortlessly to stomp on a weapon. Or effortlessly being 15 to 20 feet away from a guy like comedian, yet still effortlessly almost appear out of nowhere and grab his gun before he can fire it. if he's fast enough to never get hit against 2 legit peak human skill level foes, and not get hit, and disable their weapons with utter ease.
Then imagine you're the smartest guy on the planet. The smartest guy as stated by Dr. M. Imagine the tactics and strats he can come up with in an instant. He's a hyper genius.
Then imagine a mere human, a trained skilled one, but not a peak human. Now imagine what Ozy would look like to them. He'd effortlessly avoid anything do before they even know what to do or thought to do. That is Ozy. If you can't figure out how fast you are if you can catch a bullet the way he did, and then figure out fast that would translate to him kicking the shit out trained humans... well... that's sad