Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
bro i think bucky wins too.

but you cant write off catching a bullet into a "one time thing" lmao
the speed necessary to do that even once outshines anything bucky ever did speedwise.
that sneezing metaphor is shit considering we can easily mimick a sneeze at anytime. not to mention it in no way relates to catching a bullet with your hand 😂
do you believe he caught the bullet by accident?

also from my understanding ozy was not trying to kill in his fight with the 2 heroes. thus the tossing them around.

the most important fact about ozy as well is that he was not punched a single time...not once. even if he was looking during his monologue or fighting comedian.
bucky however was punched by everyone in the film. that alone tells you how much ozy overshadows other watchmen and even presents an argument that he may in fact fight better

Name me the people who actually landed a hit on Bucky. How many of them were superhuman?

Besides, if Ozy was really a bullet timer, how come it took him so long to finish off Comedian? He was obviously trying to kill Comedian, so unless Comedian is close to being a bullet-timer himself, Ozy should have been able to easily land blows and finish off the fight in a few seconds. The fact that he didn't implies that his speed difference is not that vast above Comedian.

Bottom line is, one bullet catching feat does not outweigh the fighting speed which he displayed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Name me the people who actually landed a hit on Bucky. How many of them were superhuman?

Besides, if Ozy was really a bullet timer, how come it took him so long to finish off Comedian? He was obviously trying to kill Comedian, so unless Comedian is close to being a bullet-timer himself, Ozy should have been able to easily land blows and finish off the fight in a few seconds. The fact that he didn't implies that his speed difference is not that vast above Comedian.

Bottom line is, one bullet catching feat does not outweigh the fighting speed which he displayed.

why if? He clearly caught a bullet...he timed a bullet and caught it. No ifs, ands, or buts.

He didn't finish comedian off immediately because it's a movie obviously... he had several opportunities to stab, and shoot the comedian... so why didn't he?

Do you know how damn fast your eye and hand speed would have to be in order to catch even a single bullet? Do you?

I'll tell you fast enough that you could toy with your opponent and not be touched fighting 2 men with ease... oh wait he did 😂

IIRC, Widow used a distraction and Falcon used his jet pack to land those hits. Cap on the other hand is >> Ozy.

Widow > Any of the people Ozy fought.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Widow > Any of the people Ozy fought.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IIRC, Widow used a distraction and Falcon used his jet pack to land those hits. Cap on the other hand is >> Ozy.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Yes but ozy couldn't be distracted nor hit with a surprise kick

Why not?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why not?

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Widow hit him... not super
Falcon kicked him in the back...not super
Cap completely spanked his ass.

why if? He clearly caught a bullet...he timed a bullet and caught it. No ifs, ands, or buts.

He didn't finish comedian off immediately because it's a movie obviously... he had several opportunities to stab, and shoot the comedian... so why didn't he?

Do you know how damn fast your eye and hand speed would have to be in order to catch even a single bullet? Do you?

I'll tell you fast enough that you could toy with your opponent and not be touched fighting 2 men with ease... oh wait he did 😂

Widow never hit WS that I recall. She kneed his gun away from him then tried to put a strangle hold on him. Of course, that was with Widow making a surprise attack. Same with Falcon using flight to land a surprise kick to Winter Soldier's back.

And if you're going to use the reason "Because it's a movie" to explain why Ozy didn't finish off Comedian in a couple of seconds, then I could also say that the reason Ozy was able to catch that bullet despite not having super speed is "because it's a movie".

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Because he was attacked from the rear twice unsuccessfully

And both times he already knew the opponents were there.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Widow hit him... not super
Falcon kicked him in the back...not super
Cap completely spanked his ass.

why if? He clearly caught a bullet...he timed a bullet and caught it. No ifs, ands, or buts.

He didn't finish comedian off immediately because it's a movie obviously... he had several opportunities to stab, and shoot the comedian... so why didn't he?

Do you know how damn fast your eye and hand speed would have to be in order to catch even a single bullet? Do you?

I'll tell you fast enough that you could toy with your opponent and not be touched fighting 2 men with ease... oh wait he did 😂

Originally posted by FrothByte
And both times he already knew the opponents were there.

If you knew i was behind you could you successfully block an incoming punch in the middle or a rant?

No camera to tell how close Rorschach was to spearing him either

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Because he was attacked from the rear twice unsuccessfully

Not under the same or even similar circumstances as what happened to WS.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Widow never hit WS that I recall. She kneed his gun away from him then tried to put a strangle hold on him. Of course, that was with Widow making a surprise attack. Same with Falcon using flight to land a surprise kick to Winter Soldier's back.

And if you're going to use the reason "Because it's a movie" to explain why Ozy didn't finish off Comedian in a couple of seconds, then I could also say that the reason Ozy was able to catch that bullet despite not having super speed is "because it's a movie".

He didn't finish comedian off because it's a movie ffs lol...
At the beginning of the fight he ported or moved fast AF from thr door to the right side of comedian without comedian noticing and disarmed him instead of shooting him in the head he chose h2h... then the knives came into play and yada yada yada

Originally posted by Silent Master
Not under the same or even similar circumstances as what happened to WS.

Being attacked from the rear by bw and being kicked in the back by falcon is different? In what way?

Im on your side here for different reasons

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
At the beginning of the fight he ported or moved fast AF from thr door to the right side of comedian without comedian noticing and disarmed him instead of shooting him in the head he chose h2h..

So Ozy can teleport now? 😬

Originally posted by Inhuman
So Ozy can teleport now? 😬

Either way he moved incredibly fast

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Being attacked from the rear by bw and being kicked in the back by falcon is different? In what way?

Im on your side here for different reasons

WS was lead to believe Widow was in another location and she is quite a bit better at stealth and Falcon used his flight to land the attack, not to memtion that while flying he can move leagues faster than the Watchmen.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
I said or moved fast AF... i only said ported to explain the best i could

Either way he moved incredibly fast

Originally posted by Silent Master
WS was lead to believe Widow was in another location and she is quite a bit better at stealth and Falcon used his flight to land the attack, not to memtion that while flying he can move leagues faster than the Watchmen.

true

but my point is that ozy knows when and how he was being attacked while not looking