Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi150 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
The bullet is slow in comparison to modern day, and hell slightly futuristic automatic weaponry that is present in the Marvel movies. You could have someone fire that revolver at a target. And have someone fire any of the rifles shot at Bucky. Guarantee if you record them, the rifle rounds hit loads faster every single time.

And yes, the single bullet does move faster than Bucky can punch. And the multiple bullets from the automatic assault rifles fired at Bucky move faster than Ozy can punch. What's your point?

I read the comic. In the comic it's far more impressive because he doesn't have a bulletproof glove. He threw his hand in the way, got hit, closed his hand, spun/fell, etc... "Catch" and "closed his hand after the bullet hit it" aren't the same thing.

And you're right, it wasn't 30 seconds. It was closer to 10. But for a genius like Ozy, having an emotional woman who has no skill shooting guns aim at you for 10 seconds in the place she's going to shoot. I'd say that helped him a fair bit.

She can't shoot a gun? What the heck are you talking about here? Yeah SS can't shoot a gun... RIGHHHTTTT

Only Bucky was AIM blocking his, while Ozy was not. That is the HUGE ELEPHANT in the room here, and you don't even realize it. Bucky had his ARM RAISED prior to being shot at in the carrier scene. You can CLEARLY see his arm is raised before anything is fired and as the guy is aim. The text book definition of AIM blocking. Ozy in STARK contrast and in VASTLY more impressive fashion, still had his had AT SIDE when the shot is being fired. He was able to move his hand FROM HIS SIDE.. to where he was being shot... all AFTER it was fired. The reflex speed to pull that off is EXPONENTIONALLY better than any speed or reaction feat from Bucky. It literally poops on it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Black Window being able to block him with little effort is PIS, considering his arm easily overpowered Cap's arm out of a headlock, among its other high-end feats. That's what I'm saying.

Okay, but when you have the other examples present, it kind of makes it hard to call everything PIS imo. It starts to become closer to valid evidence at that point.

Or it's a good feat for them, rather than a bad feat for WS. it's just further proof that Marvel street > Watchmen street.

Did you watch Civil War, KT? Bucky wqs blocking bullets from that German hit squad repeatedly without trouble. Was he aim dodging/blocking all of them?

Winter Soldier impales Ozy's face with his fist.

Originally posted by KingD19
Did you watch Civil War, KT? Bucky wqs blocking bullets from that German hit squad repeatedly without trouble. Was he aim dodging/blocking all of them?

Actually it was. It wasn't quite the aim blocking like in the WS, which was blatant aim blocking, but it was much the same. You can see with some of those shots his arm is already raised and in position. This is vastly different, AND inferior to have your arm at your side even AFTER a bullet is fired and still be fast enough to react, get your arm up, and catch it. Those aren't even in the same stratosphere really.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Winter Soldier impales Ozy's face with his fist.

Oddly enough, he didn't do that with anybody he punched. Even regular humans when he was mind controlled and bloodlusted.... he was never able to strike even remotely as hard.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Oddly enough, he didn't do that with anybody he punched. Even regular humans when he was mind controlled and bloodlusted.... he was never able to strike even remotely as hard.

That just proves that they have better durability feats than he does.

Originally posted by KingD19
Did you watch Civil War, KT? Bucky wqs blocking bullets from that German hit squad repeatedly without trouble. Was he aim dodging/blocking all of them?

Yes he clearly was

Kt is further embarrassing himself. Everyone already mocked him in the civil war thread for not realizing BP was enhanced. In short Kt you need to end yourself the sooner the better.

Everyone mocking Kt for not understanding the obvious. What's shameful is he claims to have read comics as well. I think we all know that's a lie.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=597770&pagenumber=118

Poor Kt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Kt is further embarrassing himself. Everyone already mocked him in the civil war thread for not realizing BP was enhanced. In short Kt you need to end yourself the sooner the better.

You're a clown, I said, and it's a 100% factual, from the movie there was no indication what he was. It was never stated he was a SS soldier, nor was eating the heart ever brought up. We saw Hawkeye (a skilled human) be able to block BP punches with zero issue (and enhanced in his suit BP), thus clearly indicating if you're really skilled you can block these guys punches. So if hawkeye can through training, other can, especially if you're from one of the richest most technologically advanced countries in the world. You'd have even more access to stuff. My whole point was, we don't know, and we still don't. If the interview (which was never posted and most people never saw) said so, I'm good with that. No issue. I certainly thought it was possible, and said so. I repeatedly said we don't know, and we'll see in his film. Cool, they came out and said he's enhanced. No issue. That still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't said in the movie, nor does it take away the other examples I listed as proof.

All you're proving is that, Marvel street > Watchmen street.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're a clown, I said, and it's a 100% factual, from the movie there was no indication what he was. It was never stated he was a SS soldier, nor was eating the heart ever brought up. We saw Hawkeye (a skilled human) be able to block BP punches with zero issue (and enhanced in his suit BP), thus clearly indicating if you're really skilled you can block these guys punches. So if hawkeye can through training, other can, especially if you're from one of the richest most technologically advanced countries in the world. You'd have even more access to stuff. My whole point was, we don't know, and we still don't. If the interview (which was never posted and most people never saw) said so, I'm good with that. No issue. I certainly thought it was possible, and said so. I repeatedly said we don't know, and we'll see in his film. Cool, they came out and said he's enhanced. No issue. That still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't said in the movie, nor does it take away the other examples I listed as proof.
He outran a car and took on multiple enhanced yet you claim there's no proof. You're an idiot. Everyone else noted enhanced proof we don't need a statement declaring the obvious. Onky you do because you're a moron without a functioning brain. That's what multiple nicer posters have said about you. How's it feel ?

Everyone knew before you did because you're a moron. The interview is ting the obvious you couldn't figure it on your own. Moron.

KT, you're correct, BP was never specially stated as having super-powersin the film, but it was fairly obvious that he was both super and within the range of Cap and Bucky. You had a quanchi moment, it happens.

Just be glad you're not actually quanchi, cos remember he's guy who saw this scene:

and came to the conclusion that Spider-Man and Bucky are "peers".

They are peers. He stayed down when Tony told him to. Spiderman didn't bring WS in or beat anyone. WS escaped just as he did at the end. 🙂

Robtard also stated for months and hear,s that Thanos is afraid of Ronan. 😂

A tard moment. The name fits, Robbie.

Rage overflowed into two consecutive post, Backsdown112 is full blown raging. LolZ.

Remember when Panther out of his suit ran around a corner, and beat Bucky to the top of the stairs that Bucky was already halfway up? T'Challa actually had to jump back down to reach him.

How would a non-enhanced human go up like 2-3 flights of stairs in a few seconds, then have to jump back down to engage Bucky again? I mean...unless T'Challa is enhanced as his fight scenes clearly show and he just hopped up there.

Originally posted by Robtard
Rage overflowed into two consecutive post, Backsdown112 is full blown raging. LolZ.
Every battlezone you've ever been challenged to you've backed down so this is ironic. How many have you done ?

Answer me this. Is overpowering someone being outside of their league ?

Don't be a tard all your greasey life.