How powerful will HOT become?

Started by The_Tempest17 pages

Huh. That's weird.

I agree. Galen's a Vader/Revan tier kinda guy, but he's no Yoda. 🙂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
And like Yoda, Starkiller is weaker than Sheev. So I'm not sure what your point is.

Well depending on how much of his force reserve he spent on dealing with the obstacles before that point that may not be the case. As it is though it doesn't really mean all that much in terms of Sidious's superiority if he even is.

A more powerful Marek was TFUII Vader-tier, but you think a weaker version of him holds a candle to Palpatine?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I agree. Galen's a Vader/Revan tier kinda guy, but he's no Yoda. 🙂

Just kidding. I have Galen/'Killer below Revan and Vader. 🙂

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
A more powerful Marek was TFUII Vader-tier, but you think a weaker version of him holds a candle to Palpatine?

Again the claim that the clone was more powerful without any actual evidence.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Just kidding. I have Galen/'Killer below Revan and Vader. 🙂

You're dead to me.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Again the claim that the clone was more powerful without any actual evidence.

Better feats?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Granted Sidious was angering him but I'm pretty sure Galen would have sensed if Sidious was simply allowing him to ragdoll him around when he had trouble doing so to Vader not minutes before.
Right... like the Jedi Order sensed that Chancellor Palpatine was actually Darth Sidious, and like Anakin sensed that Sidious wasn't "too weak" but actually holding back his unlimited powah...

I mean really, this is what Palpatine does, and the fact he's yet again faking it is clearly sign-posted in the novel:

A hail of shattered transparisteel and debris drove the Emperor back from Kota, breaking his concentration and freeing the Jedi Master from the fatal web of energy. Smoking and weak, Kota fell away and was caught by Garm Bel Iblis. The apprentice tossed them the comlink and advanced on Palpatine.

"Good," hissed the Emperor, his claw-like hands upraised between them like a weak old man fending off an attacker. Stumbling, he fell to his knees. "Yes." He looked up at the apprentice. "You were destined to destroy me. Do it! Give in to your hatred!"

The apprentice stood over him for a moment with his lightsaber upraised. Its aqua light reflected in the eyes of the galaxy's Emperor as though it was the last thing he would ever see.

With a snap, the apprentice extinguished the blade and lowered his arm.

Kota limped up behind him and put a hand on his shoulder. "That's it, boy," he said with rough pride. "He's beaten. Let it go."

The sound of engines from above distracted them both. They looked up to see the Rogue Shadow descending over the shattered dome, lights flashing on and off to attract their attention. Its repulsors dispelled the last of the smoke and sent the apprentice's tattered cape whipping around his legs.

Juno, he thought. At last, everything is going to be all right.

"You fool!" snarled the Emperor, sending another wave of Sith lightning into Kota's back. "He will never be yours."

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Better feats?

Equivalent feats you could argue. Maybe.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right... like the Jedi Order sensed that Chancellor Palpatine was actually Darth Sidious, and like Anakin sensed that Sidious wasn't "too weak" but actually holding back his unlimited powah...

I mean really, the fact he's yet again faking it is clearly sign-posted in the novel:

0-o I'm pretty sure there's a difference between concealing your force presence and concealing if you're actually attempting to defend from a force attack or not.

Blowing up a frigate, while in freefall and shielding from atmospheric reentry is like the best TK feat in the mythos, kek.

Originally posted by Syndicate
0-o I'm pretty sure there's a difference between concealing your force presence and concealing if you're actually attempting to defend from a force attack or not.
Pretty sure they can all be safely umbrellaed under the term "concealing."

Literally you have no basis for the claims your making. Give it up. 😬

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Blowing up a frigate, while in freefall and shielding from atmospheric reentry is like the best TK feat in the mythos, kek.

Blowing something up is a single release of kinetic energy while guiding a star destroyer down is a continuous exertion of kinetic force. If you can provide exact calculations for the feats though be my guest. 😛

He's reentering the atmosphere at the same time, he's doing this from the outside while leading the frigate to crash into a certain platform. It's an unrivaled feat, lel.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Pretty sure they can all be safely umbrellaed under the term "concealing."

Literally you have no basis for the claims your making. Give it up. 😬

You evidence?

I have the basis of Galen's own demonstrated power and the fact that the scans demonstrate him drawing on strong emotions to accomplish said feat and the fact that Sidious has never shown to be able to conceal whether or not he's actually defending himself from a force attack beforehand. I think that's solid enough.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
He's reentering the atmosphere at the same time, he's doing this from the outside while leading the frigate to crash into a certain platform. It's an unrivaled feat, lel.

Are you referring to a video game cut scene or the actual events that occurred in the novel?

Also it should be added that it states he had to hold the ship together upon reentry meaning that the ships was already falling apart so destroying it wouldn't have been as impressive as destroying a fully intact ship. Tbh it sounded like it was falling apart by the point he did that.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Are you referring to a video game cut scene or the actual events that occurred in the novel?

It really doesn't matter, but it happens in both iirc, lulz.

Originally posted by Syndicate
You evidence?

I have the basis of Galen's own demonstrated power and the fact that the scans demonstrate him drawing on strong emotions to accomplish said feat and the fact that Sidious has never shown to be able to conceal whether or not he's actually defending himself from a force attack beforehand. I think that's solid enough.

No my friend, you are making the baseless assumption that this is different from what Palpatine has prior accomplished.

Projecting a weak defense (not sure why you're assuming he'd offer no resistance at all) while disguising the power he really possesses is no different from what he's done in the past. And I see no reason to believe Marek would be able to see through that.