Darth Bane & Darth Zannah vs Revan & Darth Malak

In light of the new quote, have any opinions changed on this? Prime versions of all. Fight takes place on Ciutric IV.

Which quote are you referring to?
Bane having more knowledge and power than anyone before him?
Team 1

Yeah.

It's a bizarre quote as it basically states bane > everyone before him and therefore zannah is even more powerful and so on down the rule of two lineage
But yet that just doesn't seem right
But by that quote team 1 should win handily

It'll take some adjusting to be sure.

Team 1 wins.

Do people actually take this quote seriously? Shits and giggles aside PoD Bane obviously isn't stronger than Darth Revan or Vitiate, so its evidently referring to the Brotherhood of Sith exclusively. 😬

The quote isn't context/era dependant. Though yeah it probably won't apply to Vitiate given his own accolades (that said, some interesting points were raised recently about the TOR encyclopedia being in-universe 😱 ).

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do people actually take this quote seriously? Shits and giggles aside PoD Bane obviously isn't stronger than Darth Revan or Vitiate, so its evidently referring to the Brotherhood of Sith exclusively. 😬

Originally posted by ILS
The quote isn't context/era dependant. Though yeah it probably won't apply to Vitiate given his own accolades (that said, some interesting points were raised recently about the TOR encyclopedia being in-universe 😱 ).

Right, but Bane at his peak, not PoD Bane, is way more learned and powerful. That's why the quote is separated from the bulk of the article and refers to "anyone". It isn't in a context.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The contexts aren't specified, but it is the most logical contexts to assume considering Bane himself admits to being unable to fully comprehend the knowledge in Darth Revan's holocron, himself less masterful and knowledgeable than Vitiate.

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Originally posted by ILS
Right, but Bane at his peak, not PoD Bane, is way more learned and powerful. That's why the quote is separated from the bulk of the article and refers to "anyone". It isn't in a context.

It says "He used that knowledge and skill to change the Sith Order forever", or rather to destroy the Brotherhood and institute the Rule of Two; which is done in PoD, well before his prime.

So prime bane must be way stronger than anyone before him 😉

In the Brotherhood of Sith. 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I would like to see the full contexts myself, however that's not actually true:

It says "He used that knowledge and skill to change the Sith Order forever", or rather to destroy the Brotherhood and institute the Rule of Two; which is done in PoD, well before his prime.

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It isn't written in any context because the text is isolated. And it describes Bane's life well past the BoD, up to the point he finds Nadd's holocron, and establishes his base on Ambria with Zannah.

Him using his superior knowledge and power than "anyone" who preceded him to change the Sith Order "forever" doesn't exactly scream "but only in regards to the Brotherhood of Sith, yo!"

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Do people actually take this quote seriously? Shits and giggles aside PoD Bane obviously isn't stronger than Darth Revan or Vitiate, so its evidently referring to the Brotherhood of Sith exclusively. 😬

So yeah Bane is a beast

@ILS

Actually, the way i read it is like:

Darth Bane had mastered more sith techniques than anyone who had come before him.

I read that as any other apprentice or person within the Dark brotherhood who had come before him.

One could argue shenanigans and say I'm biased, but if the author's intent was to say Darth Bane>Every other sith lord before him, i feel he would have said any other sith lord instead of a vague word like that.

It's very vague imo, a decent quote but vague.

In any case the quote could be rendered invalid as SWTor And other books didn't come out when that fact file was out but meh.

Based on feats and/or accolades alone, the HoT, Barsen'thor, Nox, Valkorion, Revan, maybe Malgus, and Exar Kun are undoubtedly above/at least on par with any incarnation of Bane, especially because his most impressive feats were accomplished while on dark side nexuses. Seriously. This quote is shit.

Would you guys seriously take into account a quote that said something like "Zayne Carrick eventually became one of the most powerful Jedi of his time" only because it comes from a canon source? Even if it contradicts a lot of stuff and makes no sense whatsoever when considering other characters and their respective powers and abilities?

I guess Vitiate's own accolades need to get dropped then, kek.

Dat in-universe, era specific hype doe.