Darth Bane & Darth Zannah vs Revan & Darth Malak

Started by The Ellimist7 pages

brb the Guinness World Book of Records doesn't cross-check every record holder with all 7+ billion individuals on the planet, it must be bullshit. 👆

It's obviously bullshit if you think its word is Gospel. 😬 It doesn't reflect absolute law that this women has the absolute largest breasts or this man is the absolute tallest ever known. It merely reports the known data presented to them (if they can't personally confirm the feat, they don't count it, thus further making your sarcastic point retarded), and even that can be flawed at times (e.g. http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/guinness-book-of-world-records-makes-error-in-record-for-most-sixes-198126).

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's obviously bullshit if you think its word is Gospel. 😬 It doesn't reflect absolute law that this women has the absolute largest breasts or this man is the absolute tallest ever known. It merely reports the known data presented to them (if they can't personally confirm the feat, they don't count it, thus further making your sarcastic point retarded), and even that can be flawed at times (e.g. http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/guinness-book-of-world-records-makes-error-in-record-for-most-sixes-198126).

👆

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's obviously bullshit if you think its word is Gospel. 😬 It doesn't reflect absolute law that this women has the absolute largest breasts or this man is the absolute tallest ever known. It merely reports the known data presented to them (if they can't personally confirm the feat, they don't count it, thus further making your sarcastic point retarded), and even that can be flawed at times (e.g. http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/guinness-book-of-world-records-makes-error-in-record-for-most-sixes-198126).

Not the point. I was saying that a source making a superlative statement doesn't need to explicitly mention every individual data point that spans the domain that the superlative reigns over in order to make that extrapolation.

Like when these sources say that Sidious is the most powerful sith lord of all time, it doesn't matter that they don't mention Vitiate by name. Ditto, quite frankly, for this Bane one.

A lack of mention across over a hundred issues suggests a lack of recognition of Vitiate altogether, hence the argument.

I pulled an ant and personally contacted the publisher.

Very good. His response could very well slaughter the quote brigade, and in turn keep Vitiate wank on the rise. 🙂

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
A lack of mention across over a hundred issues suggests a lack of recognition of Vitiate altogether, hence the argument.

Some of those sourcebooks don't mention any of the ancient sith at all, lol. That doesn't change the fact that the narrators are clearly making a statement about Sidious's status over the course of galactic history. That they don't mention all the millions of potential competitors doesn't matter because they explicitly blanket mention them all with the phrase "of all time".

@Anticus, can you attempt to find the emails for the guys that made Jedi Academy/Jedi Outcast?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Some of those sourcebooks don't mention any of the ancient sith at all, lol. That doesn't change the fact that the narrators are clearly making a statement about Sidious's status over the course of galactic history. That they don't mention all the millions of potential competitors doesn't matter because they explicitly blanket mention them all with the phrase "of all time".

Not the point.

Sourcebooks generally focus on a set era of time (e.g. the Dark Empire or KotOR sourcebooks).

The Fact Files encompass all of history besides specifically the events of SWTOR and related works.

Coincidence? I think not. 😉

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not the point.

Sourcebooks generally focus on a set era of time (e.g. the Dark Empire or KotOR sourcebooks).

The Fact Files encompass all of history besides specifically the events of SWTOR and related works.

Coincidence? I think not. 😉

👆

He has trouble grasping points cause he is usually grasping at straws.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not the point.

Sourcebooks generally focus on a set era of time (e.g. the Dark Empire or KotOR sourcebooks).

The Fact Files encompass all of history besides specifically the events of SWTOR and related works.

Coincidence? I think not. 😉

Hey, you.

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
@Anticus, can you attempt to find the emails for the guys that made Jedi Academy/Jedi Outcast?

I'm busy tonight, but if you send me a PM tomorrow, I can look for it.

It would be hard since Raven Software was engulfed by the COD franchise.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Hey, you.

Whatcha' want?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not the point.

Sourcebooks generally focus on a set era of time (e.g. the Dark Empire or KotOR sourcebooks).

The Fact Files encompass all of history besides specifically the events of SWTOR and related works.

Coincidence? I think not. 😉

They generally focus on a specific era, yes, but they clearly are not talking about a specific era when they use the phrasing "of all time", "who ever lived", etc.

Do you remember that quote from one of the SWTOR devs that said post-3.0 bosses like Revan were supposed to make the player feel "powerless" without the aid of a team? I vaguely remember something like that, although I couldn't find it on your respect thread.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
They generally focus on a specific era, yes, but they clearly are not talking about a specific era when they use the phrasing "of all time", "who ever lived", etc.

Thus the lack of need for mentioning all the Sith throughout the sourcebooks.

People don't demand Vitiate to be quoted specifically within Darth Bane's section, but merely a mention of at least some event even remotely relating to SWTOR to signify he's apart of the head count.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Do you remember that quote from one of the SWTOR devs that said post-3.0 bosses like Revan were supposed to make the player feel "powerless" without the aid of a team? I vaguely remember something like that, although I couldn't find it on your respect thread.

I thought I posted the closest relating stuff in the SW:EU section?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm busy tonight, but if you send me a PM tomorrow, I can look for it.

It would be hard since Raven Software was engulfed by the COD franchise.

ugh, they were? well shit.

Yeah, I'll pm you tomorrow then.

I'm sure there was something else, tbh. Something some dev said specifically concerning how the PC was going to need to team up with others to fight super-powerful bosses like Revan. (I.E the Coalition Strike Team)