Originally posted by playa1258
I don't mind either but many will consider it pandering.
Wouldn't it kind of be pandering? Hulk gets wrecked easily, and Thor gets beat up as well(even though using Stormbreaker he more than got his revenge, although that could be argued as a feat solely for the weapon). The 2 biggest guns the Avengers have get steamrolled in a combined 2 and a half minutes. And now Captain Marvel is suddenly the most powerful hero of all because she's got some Kree blood? Since when in comics or any of Marvel has that ever been the case? It seems like they just made her stronger than the two strongest beings shown so far and able to kick Thanos' a*s or whatever because the "girl power" kick that's been gaining steam the past few years. Nothing against it but call it what it is. She's more powerful because she's a woman and women are powerful and need to be stronger than men, even ones who are supposed to be "the strongest".
Originally posted by playa1258
@King19 I get where you are coming from with the pandering part. This is Disney after all and they did give us the Rey situation in Star Wars.
Yeah. I've got no problem with her being powerful, but if anything make her part of the trio of Hulk, Thor, and now Captain Marvel. Not just, "Superman" from Justice League, because it's seeming like she's gonna be OP to the point of the rest of the Avengers dropping down to supporting roles. And only because she's a chick.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
The hate for this boggles my mind tbh.I mean its one damn Marvel movie starring a Female, and people are losing their shit.
Its really not that big a deal if shes gonna be the most powerful character.
You seem to be missing the point. They made her the most powerful simply because she's a woman. Nowhere in history has Captain Marvel been as powerful or more powerful than Thor and Hulk. She's been near them, but never eclipsed them. And its even more insulting when Thor and Hulk get heavily nerfed despite them being the big guns, then she's made the savior because she's got powers and a vagina.
It's clearly a bunch of pandering to the "girl power" thing.
Exactly. If it was Phoenix I could maybe get behind it, but Cap. Marvel? It also doesn’t help that she is a new character who came from nowhere and suddenly she is going to completely eclipse the heroes we’ve been following for the past decade. Honestly, I wish Endgame was mostly restricted to the original core Avengers so they got one last “hurrah” before the new generation takes over.
You bring up an excellent point. I wonder if the sudden insertion of Captain Marvel into the Thanos saga will actually prevent this decade long arc from having a satisfying conclusion. Even Black Panther was in CW before getting his own movie, so his appearance in Infinity War wasn't that jarring. But with Captain Marvel, she's showing up out of nowhere and suddenly she's going to be the most powerful person in the MCU with only a couple months of build up. It feels like not only a rushed and contrived storyline with a Mary Sue, but also a borderline deus ex machina that will take away from one of the most engaging sagas in cinematic history, arguably rivaled only by the Star Wars Original Trilogy. I hope Disney, Marvel, and Kevin Feige don't screw this up. They are on their final victory lap, but are at risk of crashing before they cross the finish line.
Originally posted by KingD19
You seem to be missing the point. They made her the most powerful simply because she's a woman. Nowhere in history has Captain Marvel been as powerful or more powerful than Thor and Hulk. She's been near them, but never eclipsed them. And its even more insulting when Thor and Hulk get heavily nerfed despite them being the big guns, then she's made the savior because she's got powers and a vagina.It's clearly a bunch of pandering to the "girl power" thing.
Originally posted by ares834
Exactly. If it was Phoenix I could maybe get behind it, but Cap. Marvel? It also doesn’t help that she is a new character who came from nowhere and suddenly she is going to completely eclipse the heroes we’ve been following for the past decade. Honestly, I wish Endgame was mostly restricted to the original core Avengers so they got one last “hurrah” before the new generation takes over.
Originally posted by Lestov16
You bring up an excellent point. I wonder if the sudden insertion of Captain Marvel into the Thanos saga will actually prevent this decade long arc from having a satisfying conclusion. Even Black Panther was in CW before getting his own movie, so his appearance in Infinity War wasn't that jarring. But with Captain Marvel, she's showing up out of nowhere and suddenly she's going to be the most powerful person in the MCU with only a couple months of build up. It feels like not only a rushed and contrived storyline with a Mary Sue, but also a borderline deus ex machina that will take away from one of the most engaging sagas in cinematic history, arguably rivaled only by the Star Wars Original Trilogy. I hope Disney, Marvel, and Kevin Feige don't screw this up. They are on their final victory lap, but are at risk of crashing before they cross the finish line.
Agree with all this. My wife and I are planning on seeing Ms. Larson's Captain Marvel opening night, and I'm sure I'll enjoy myself, but force-fed agendas ruin movies. I'm all for thematic material, but don't club me over the head with it, because that ruins a film.
I'm not saying that's going to happen, and hopefully Larson is just speaking her mind at the press junkets and appearances on the press tour. That's her right, and I'll reserve judgment until I see CM (and Endgame hopefully, for that matter).
Before seeing Black Panther last year, one would have thought it was going to be the most politically-motivated and divisive movie since Birth of a Nation, but I was thoroughly pleased that Ryan Coogler interwove what he wanted to say into the narrative without taking me out of the movie too much.
Thread is 38 pages so I'm not gonna bother to check if this has been asked already, but has anyone seen the website for the movie? Lol, they made it so very 90's.