Darth Vader vs. Exar Kun

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Kinda a messy stance, given we know Vader's ower grew throughout the decades, to where he received a solid upgrade after ANH, and further increased that power in RotJ, where he reached the pinnacle of his power.
We can't really conclusively prove this either way, honestly.

The gap between Muur and Vader had to be have been noticeable for him to be fantasizing over Muur's power to that extent. He even considered Muur potentially being another master to him, which means that Muur would've had to be above him by quite a noticeable degree. Even if Vader grew vastly, I doubt he would've surpassed Ragnos, who was more powerful than Pall, who in turn, was more powerful than Muur. And Kun's more powerful than Ragnos, so do the math.

The only showings I find suspect are his Force Blast feats; I have no problem with any of the others.

So you take his spirit feats? That should be good enough, tbh. Though his Force Blast feats aren't that unbelievable at all. Assuming he has his trinkets here, which the OP says he doesn't but we can discuss a bonus round where he has them.

Don't know if people have mentioned this yet, but apparently Kun raised the Corsair, Naga Sadow's flagship, from Yavin IV in the same way that Nihilus raised the Ravager from Malachor V. Yes, the nexus and circumstances and everything make it suspect, but it's worth mentioning as a colossal TK feat:

"Though all of the Derriphan-class battleships were thought to be destroyed in the Great Hyperspace War, at least one survived. The ship, belonging to Naga Sadow, was buried on Yavin 4. During the Great Sith War, Exar Kun would raise the ship from the planet and put it back to service, similar to the way Darth Nihilus would raise the Ravager from the ruined surface of Malachor V."

-- Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide, Page 163

Oh, shit.

You mortals will be bowing before me for ages 😂

Hey, I'm not denying that the Ancients are absurdly powerful. I mean, they are the precursors to the Nigh-Omnipotent Valkorion.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Don't know if people have mentioned this yet, but apparently Kun raised the Corsair, Naga Sadow's flagship, from Yavin IV in the same way that Nihilus raised the Ravager from Malachor V. Yes, the nexus and circumstances and everything make it suspect, but it's worth mentioning as a colossal TK feat:

...How has this never been mentioned before?

I've always considered Kun more Sidious-Vitiate like than Revan-Vader like. 🙂

Ever consider that "similar to the way" just refers to him recommissioning a fallen ship as his flagship?

Kek

It mentions him raising it, so the TK's there.

How else would it get from the ground to space? Teleportation?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
How else would it get from the ground to space? Teleportation?

Same could be said for the Ravager.

No, just sounds like you were trying to discredit it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrOJ9Sl82P4&t=13m38s 👆

Point is, I'm raising Kun kek

Nihilus does the same thing and you still have him below Sadow. 😬

Wow, you memorize the quotes so you can link videos to them? lol

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Nihilus does the same thing and you still have him below Sadow. 😬

If anything this is more reason to be behind Sadow>Nihilus. Frankly, for me, not that much has changed; Exar's now definitely proven that he's a TK powerhouse, though.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
I've always considered Kun more Sidious-Vitiate like than Revan-Vader like. 🙂

Same tbh 🙂