Originally posted by emporerpants
So, did Luke lose to Rey, Kylo, AND snoke? Haven't seen the movie yet, just legit curious. Long ago I called that Rey would beat Luke. If I was right then the power of the Mary Sue is clearly > the force after all.
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yes, Rey beat Luke. He was beating her but then she force pulled HIS lightsaber to her and stood over him with his lightsaber pointed down at him. Rey > Luke confirmed.
The arguments for Palpatine are about as objective as saying the Death Star is more powerful than the Starkiller. It simply isn't the case there or here. The mental gymnastics one has to take to argue Palpatine is more powerful than Snoke is silly. Snoke is the grandest we have ever seen. I was right.
Originally posted by quanchi112Spoiler:
I said he'd be the most powerful in this or the next film. He was proven more powerful in this film. It isn't even close. You backed Palpatine and were wrong. I also said Kylo is greater than Vader and he is both in station and in terms of evil. First Order is far greater than the empire as well. I've been right about everything.You're just upset Kylo is more evil than Vader and Snoke is beyond direct conflict. Snoke's dialogue, his appearance, his voice, and his overall character is vastly superior to Palpatine. It isn't even close. I'm right. Snoke is on another level.
I was right.
You were incorrect about everything, actually.
Um, no. Snoke's feats amount
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to some Force TK and a little lightning. Vader did better when he Force-choked a fool through a television screen across the galaxy and Palps definitely did more.
If Kylo's so evil, why did he
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cry and not kill his mother?
As of right now, it's Palapatine, Yoda or Luke at the upper film tier.
Spoiler:. You won't be able to accept this, as you're unable to accept you were 100% wrong in your predictions. There will be no
Rey will likely surpass them in ep9
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"Wait until ep9 for Snoke's greatness", he's a proven chump and he's done. A Throwaway villain.
Snoke and Kylo are garbage tier compared to Vader and Emperor. Emperor Palpatine cemented his place as one of the all time greatest villains in cinema and though he was more evil, he was surpassed by Vader as a great villain on screen.
Spoiler:Snoke? Some old stupid looking dude that likes wearing fabulous gold robes and got recked by an Emo Vader wannabe with ease. And as far as Kylo? He can't even defeat a noob Rey who had 0 training.
I keep having to tel people that Snoke was nothing more than a
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red herring to lead to a WTF moment when he is murdered by Ren. That's all Snoke was. Just like the revelation that Rey's parents were space trash nobodies who sold her into slavery for drinking money.
People had so may theories that were shot down and now they're all butt hurt because they were wrong. Just roll with the films, FFS.
These were all build ups to, surprise surprise, a moment you weren't expecting.
Originally posted by RobtardFalse, I was right about everything.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/MhP9ozP.gif[You were incorrect about everything, actually.
Um, no. Snoke's feats amount
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to some Force TK and a little lightning. Vader did better when he Force-choked a fool through a television screen across the galaxy and Palps definitely did more.If Kylo's so evil, why did he
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cry and not kill his mother?As of right now, it's Palapatine, Yoda or Luke at the upper film tier.
Spoiler:. You won't be able to accept this, as you're unable to accept you were 100% wrong in your predictions. There will be no
Rey will likely surpass them in ep9Spoiler:
"Wait until ep9 for Snoke's greatness", he's a proven chump and he's done. A Throwaway villain.
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. It is obvious you don't understand what you're seeing. It wasn't that he force pushed her itself, sport. The fact he did whatever he wanted to her whenever he wanted. Luke was unable to do so to her in direct conflict.Snoke used his force powers via an image as well. That isn't amazing that's just a common application of force powers over someone without any. Overpowering someone with raw strength at your whim who scared Luke Skywalker is what makes this impressive.
Ben beat Luke and Rey had him on his ass. 😂
He wanted to die and was a coward who said the Jedi were failure. I told everyone the Jedi were massive failures and even Yoda confirmed failure is their greatest teacher. 😂
Same logic as the Starkiller base which doesn't focus on its greater power but the manner in which it was destroyed to try to take away from the clear fact it's more powerful tha the Death Star.
I do not care about someone being at the end of the film. Sauron was the most powerful guy in Lotr and he didn't have to come back to life to asset the obvious.
Snoke is more powerful than Palpatine who was killed by a one armed slow moving cyborg without the force.
I was right about Snoke, Kylo, and the pitiful nature of the Jedi order.
😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nah, I went through and destroyed your argument like this.
Palpatine created a galactic empire from the ground up and ruled it for decades
https://i.imgur.com/L4R1ueC.png <--- click at own risk
^ Even
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Snoke's
He benefited from the hubris of the Jedi and was lucky Anakin saved him against Windu. Quit posting blatant spoilers. Delete the images before anyone happens upon it. You have no consideration for anyone other than yourself, Rob.
Quit being upset Snoke, his First Order, and his power is greater than Palpatine.
