Star Wars: The Last Jedi

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I LOL’d

The acting, pacing, dialogue, and plot are all better in the PT compared to the OT. And since the PT is not known for its acting...that should frame the OT quite well.

It's kind of obvious how horrible the OT is when it comes to those things. But people who hate on the PT but love the OT do not like to admit to this. Almost every criticism that can be levied against the PT can also be put on the OT.

I still think the OT lovers/PT Haters are just riding a meme and are almost all full of shit. It's why I say they have "blankie syndrome."

I have blankie syndrome, too. With the ST...I don't like how they shit all over the OT's accomplishments and characters. Especially Luke.

Would you look at that? I admit that I also have blankie syndrome?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The acting, pacing, dialogue, and plot are all better in the PT compared to the OT. And since the PT is not known for its acting...that should frame the OT quite well.

It's kind of obvious how horrible the OT is when it comes to those things. But people who hate on the PT but love the OT do not like to admit to this. Almost every criticism that can be levied against the PT can also be put on the OT.

I still think the OT lovers/PT Haters are just riding a meme and are almost all full of shit. It's why I say they have "blankie syndrome."

I have blankie syndrome, too. With the ST...I don't like how they shit all over the OT's accomplishments and characters. Especially Luke.

Would you look at that? I admit that I also have blankie syndrome?

The acting got better every film in the OT. That cannot be said for the PT. Also, the PT has EASILY some of the dumbest writing/dialogue in any movie I've ever seen. It's easy to blame Hayden Christenson for how horrible he was but it wasn't ALL his fault. NO ONE could have made 80% of his lines sound good. The PT is hated on for a reason. That being said I'm not a fan of the new trilogy either. For me, The OT is where it's at, all day, every day.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The acting, pacing, dialogue, and plot are all better in the PT compared to the OT. And since the PT is not known for its acting...that should frame the OT quite well.

It's kind of obvious how horrible the OT is when it comes to those things. But people who hate on the PT but love the OT do not like to admit to this. Almost every criticism that can be levied against the PT can also be put on the OT.

I still think the OT lovers/PT Haters are just riding a meme and are almost all full of shit. It's why I say they have "blankie syndrome."

Honestly I love both the OT and PT, so don't get into attacking the OT just to defend the PT.

But as someone who grew up on the OT, I can tell you there was a time when I had to spend just as much effort defending Return of the Jedi as I do now defending the Prequels.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Leech is an ignorant guy who doesn't really pay attention to Star Wars to ask such a stupid question. That won't stop him from complaining about it.

You're just mad that Snoke is a pathetic, weak b!tch. lol

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Honestly I love both the OT and PT, so don't get into attacking the OT just to defend the PT.

Agreed 100%. I love the shit out of the OT and PT. Absolutely love them. I only use it as a tool to demonstrate the blind hypocrisy of so heavily criticizing the PT.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
But as someone who grew up on the OT, I can tell you there was a time when I had to spend just as much effort defending Return of the Jedi as I do now defending the Prequels.

Right, people don't remember the nerd arguments over the OT before the PT even was formalized. Seems they forget about the plot hole arguments that abounded regarding the OT.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
1. The acting got better every film in the OT. 2. That cannot be said for the PT. 3. Also, the PT has EASILY some of the dumbest writing/dialogue in any movie I've ever seen. 4. It's easy to blame Hayden Christenson for how horrible he was but it wasn't ALL his fault. NO ONE could have made 80% of his lines sound good. 5. The PT is hated on for a reason. That being said I'm not a fan of the new trilogy either. For me, The OT is where it's at, all day, every day.

I disagree with every point you make, here, about the PT vs. OT. Every single one. I numbered your points for clarity.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
You're just mad that Snoke is a pathetic, weak b!tch. lol
He isn't pathetic he's the most powerful force user ever seen. This is even clarified by the actor as he's more powerful than Palpatine who was the most powerful Sith Lord prior to Snoke's entrance. You simply can't follow along with films catering to children. Sad.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I disagree with every point you make, here, about the PT vs. OT. Every single one. I numbered your points for clarity.
Congratulations? There is a reason the PT is not looked favorably on by a large portion of the fans and moviegoers in general. It's easy to find hundreds if not thousands of videos trashing the prequels on youtube for instance. And if you don't agree that the dialogue in ROTS for instance, is just horrible; I don't know what to tell you. There are so many cringe-inducing lines in the prequels it's mind boggling.

Anyway, you can chose to like the prequels all you want. That's your opinion and I'm happy you deride enjoyment from them. Hell, there are MOMENTS in each prequel movie that I find enjoyable but for the most part I just don't like them much.

Just one example of the FANTASTIC dialogue in the PT: https://thoughtcatalog.com/oliver-miller/2012/07/50-quotes-from-the-star-wars-prequels-ranked-in-order-of-terribleness/

Prequel Haters tend to be loud. But if you look at the numbers it’s clear they’re in the minority. Amongst both critics and audiences.

Haters are always loud just like the Trek fans who at some shitty convention voted Into Darkenss the worst Trek.

originally posted by Darth Thor
Prequel Haters tend to be loud. But if you look at the numbers it’s clear they’re in the minority. Amongst both critics and audiences

Sure, overall they may have decent scores and reviews and made good money at the box office, but they are easily considered to be of lower quality when compared to the rest of the Star Wars series. That's not subjective. Your own personal opinion may be different, but the general consensus is that the PT>OT. Just one of MANY examples:
http://collider.com/star-wars-movies-ranked-from-worst-to-best/#the-force-awakens

Can't edit my ****ing post for some reason....supposed to have said PT<OT....ffs.

The edit and the quote buttons are shit these days.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Prequel Haters tend to be loud. But if you look at the numbers it’s clear they’re in the minority. Amongst both critics and audiences.

in '05 i had to endure ridiculous amounts of fanboy-projected rage because i didn't like the prequels. i was not a "real fan", and the very presence of my opinion caused random people to screech and self-harm.

all camps of opinion in the SW community has it's whiney fanboys, whether they loved it or hated it.

i'm still on the fence. it's by far the most complex SW film to digest, but i think i'm almost ready for a second viewing.

Take the plunge you'll come to your senses and realize this film is great.

Snoke wasn't a Sith Lord? Just skilled in the Dark side apparently. Maybe that was common knowledge that I missed. Makes it even worse what happened to him. Would have liked some back story.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Congratulations? There is a reason the PT is not looked favorably on by a large portion of the fans and moviegoers in general.

Yes, as I said, blankie syndrome, hypocrisy (blind to the OT's not so great elements), and it's a meme to hate the PT.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
in '05 i had to endure ridiculous amounts of fanboy-projected rage because i didn't like the prequels.

No.

No you didn't. 😐

https://movietime.guru/the-empire-strikes-back-ruined-star-wars-df4e6c5f647c

mmm

Originally posted by ares834
https://movietime.guru/the-empire-strikes-back-ruined-star-wars-df4e6c5f647c

mmm

The OT was a Pioneer of storytelling. There really were no "Trilogies" before it. Certainly not on it's level. That article was obviously a jab at a lot of the fans bashing the film for plot-holes mainly. My review didn't really go into plot holes that much. There are many more issues I take with it than that.