Black Bolt vs. Aquaman h2h

What is a herald-buster?

Is this one of those meaningless buzzwords that have drifted over here from comicvine and cbr? like "elite", "teamwrecker", etc

Originally posted by -Pr-
Really, the guy who regularly ignores mods, then reports people for doing the same thing he does, is going to lecture me about behaviour?

By all means, continue. It's not my fault you have a rampant hate for DC.

And the funny this, I most likely like Marvel more than you do, to boot.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Well here's my New52 post I'll go on the fact that you suggest Aquaman was never at a certain level.

Strength: Grappling with Frankenstein (Same guy who physically restrained Shazam who had to resort to AOE go break out)

http://imgur.com/QbYi4Im

Takes the Dead King's scepter attack (Last time the DK used this it destroyed Atlantis as a continent)

http://imgur.com/a/Opunl

Speed Blitzes Ocean Master
http://imgur.com/6tHTZp1

Aquaman vs Hercules (New52 Shazam us stated to have the strength of Hercules)

http://imgur.com/a/sZXPv

Grappling? 😂 A one panel shot of them locking horns? WTF....

Where is the success against a herald buster and which one of these heralds has he beaten or fought even? Or maybe I'll say BB would have beaten that Ocean Master, Hercules and Frank like you did.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
That's got to be one of the lamest excuses I've heard in a long while. With regard to the weak point, are you suggesting BB doesn't have the power to knock back heralds including Hulk unless he is hitting a weak point? Please say you are. He's knocked back Namor, Hulk, Gladiator, Thor, Ikaris, Thing, etc. He didn't need a weak point to send them flying. What a pathetic attempt by you to discredit.

I wasn't discrediting him it's was more of a joke if anything.

Regardless there's Despero, Amazo, Piscator, Titus, Martian Manhunter, off the tip of my head

Pre-Flashpoint Aquaman

Took a sustained blast that oneshotted Orion
Took a Angel scream that was suggested to be able to destroy matter itself and was stated to have destroyed something city size

Beat up Despero, Did well against the JL and Amazo

I'm more curious about this tier your suggesting Aquaman is in rather then anything.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Grappling? 😂 A one panel shot of them locking horns? WTF....

Where is the success against a herald buster and which one of these heralds has he beaten or fought even? Or maybe I'll say BB would have beaten that Ocean Master, Hercules and Frank like you did.

Shazam is as strong as Hercules and visa versa so there's that.

Ocean Master is up for question I brought him up because of speed but in regards it's funny because Ocean Master outside of Aquaman has visited Superman Pre-Flashpoint and didn't to bad on two different encounters they had.
Frankenstein has done well against Black Adam, like I mentioned restrained Shazam, and did well against Omac who has busted characters like Powergirl and Steel together

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But you are a pseudo mod attacking posters and dry snitching because you don't like their opinions. Congrats to that. And it's behavior, not behaviour.

It either Behavior is just the American way to spell it,

I wanted to point out some interesting stuff though N52 Wonder Woman has stated herself that it hurts punching Superman, N52 Lobo hurt his hand punching Superman. Aquaman in TOA showed no sign of pain and continued to use the same hand to punch in the story.

In regards to who Aquaman has fought in his history

Aquaman and JLD vs Amazo

http://imgur.com/a/Fz5SZ

Aquaman vs Despero

http://imgur.com/a/vUhDg

Aquaman vs Justice League

http://imgur.com/a/3AP0j

There's characters like Piscator and mentions like Panic in the sky that's notable to

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I wanted to point out some interesting stuff though N52 Wonder Woman has stated herself that it hurts punching Superman, N52 Lobo hurt his hand punching Superman. Aquaman in TOA showed no sign of pain and continued to use the same hand to punch in the story.

In regards to who Aquaman has fought in his history

Aquaman and JLD vs Amazo

http://imgur.com/a/Fz5SZ

Aquaman vs Despero

http://imgur.com/a/vUhDg

Aquaman vs Justice League

http://imgur.com/a/3AP0j

There's characters like Piscator and mentions like Panic in the sky that's notable to

You're showing "feats" that aren't feats, buddy

Punching Despero like that isn't a feat?

Better feat than socking 70s Hulk.

Originally posted by Cogito
You're showing "feats" that aren't feats, buddy

Hurting Amazo with a Haymayker isn't a feat? Especially when in the very same scans he's suggested to still have all of the Leagues power?

Sending Despero flying isn't a feat? Or the fact it had to resort to telepathy like Martian Manhunter said if would if Despero couldn't subdue Aquaman physically.

If there's something personal you want I'm ears.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
But you are a pseudo mod attacking posters and dry snitching because you don't like their opinions. Congrats to that. And it's behavior, not behaviour.

You know what the word "pseudo" means, right?

And no, opinions has nothing to do with it. But I'm sure that's the shield you hide behind so you can play the victim of the big, mean mod.

Actually where I'm from it's behaviour.

Originally posted by krisblaze
What is a herald-buster?

Is this one of those meaningless buzzwords that have drifted over here from comicvine and cbr? like "elite", "teamwrecker", etc

You might like Marvel, but you [b]HATE Abhi. [/B]

Aye, but don't forget: I also protect him against all the mean people that are out to get him.

For some reason, that I'm sure makes total sense.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I wanted to point out some interesting stuff though N52 Wonder Woman has stated herself that it hurts punching Superman, N52 Lobo hurt his hand punching Superman. Aquaman in TOA showed no sign of pain and continued to use the same hand to punch in the story.

In regards to who Aquaman has fought in his history

Aquaman and JLD vs Amazo

http://imgur.com/a/Fz5SZ

Aquaman vs Despero

http://imgur.com/a/vUhDg

Aquaman vs Justice League

http://imgur.com/a/3AP0j

There's characters like Piscator and mentions like Panic in the sky that's notable to

yeah...wtf? those aren't feats. amazo it was said could be ko'd by a rotting log in the narration. lol he smacked despero out of the water. that's not any better than getting the better of glads in straight h2h. grappled frank for one panel? the hell? bb grappled hulk and stunned him with a single blow after tanking hulk's first hit. i'm willing to have my mind changed, but thise 'feats' don't come close. you are being blatantly disingenuous at this point by nay-saying bb's feats and posting those to show superiority. i'd say those 'feats' actually HURT your case more than they helped it tbh. i mean when he saw diana in that last set of scans she smacked him away like he was a flea.... the only good feat was against herc and he was getting slapped around until he was 'drowned'. i hope for arthur's sake you have more than that. 😬

All I know is Aquaman shanked Despero with some rebar. Which unless it was a piece of magic rebar...makes very little sense. Perhaps Despero is weakened by water? Or rebar? Or rebar soaked in water?

Originally posted by Surtur
All I know is Aquaman shanked Despero with some rebar. Which unless it was a piece of magic rebar...makes very little sense. Perhaps Despero is weakened by water? Or rebar? Or rebar soaked in water?

Or his piercing durability isn't s of as his blunt for durability which would make more sense

That in itself makes no sense though. If you can withstand a punch from a Superman level being Aquaman shouldn't be able to shank you.

I totally acknowledge some characters do have this weird piercing weakness, I'm just saying I often find it silly.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah...wtf? those aren't feats. amazo it was said could be ko'd by a rotting log in the narration. lol he smacked despero out of the water. that's not any better than getting the better of glads in straight h2h. grappled frank for one panel? the hell? bb grappled hulk and stunned him with a single blow after tanking hulk's first hit. i'm willing to have my mind changed, but thise 'feats' don't come close. you are being blatantly disingenuous at this point by nay-saying bb's feats and posting those to show superiority. i'd say those 'feats' actually HURT your case more than they helped it tbh. i mean when he saw diana in that last set of scans she smacked him away like he was a flea.... the only good feat was against herc and he was getting slapped around until he was 'drowned'. i hope for arthur's sake you have more than that. 😬

In regards to the Hercules fight context favors Aquaman. Aquaman was trying to calm down Hercules even pitying him which factored in their fight, when Aquaman regained his strength by being submerged he cutloose and beat up Hercules

Aquaman being sent flying by Wonder Woman isn't a bad showing considering she's also sent Hal and Superman flying with a strike on two different occasions, hell in the same storyline Aquaman sent Superman flying with a punch. In regards to Diana's punching

http://imgur.com/a/fFyns

This Diana is stronger then she was when she hit Aquaman in TOA but ironically this same Diana fought Aquaman in Aquaman Annual #2 and didn't send him flying.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I wanted to point out some interesting stuff though N52 Wonder Woman has stated herself that it hurts punching Superman, N52 Lobo hurt his hand punching Superman. Aquaman in TOA showed no sign of pain and continued to use the same hand to punch in the story.

In regards to who Aquaman has fought in his history

Aquaman and JLD vs Amazo

http://imgur.com/a/Fz5SZ

Aquaman vs Despero

http://imgur.com/a/vUhDg

Aquaman vs Justice League

http://imgur.com/a/3AP0j

There's characters like Piscator and mentions like Panic in the sky that's notable to

How is any of this the least bit impressive? Did you actually look and rend these scans? Against AMAZO, who was not operating at herald buster levels this arc, the dialogue in the scan YOU posted reads "The bewildered android could be toppled like timber by the slightest of blows." It's like the writer is explaining exactly why AM ax handle blow hurt him. This is impressive? 😂

He threw a piece of steel through Despero from the blind side, big deal. Where is the hand to hand you promised?

I have no idea what you think you are showing us in the 3rd scan. Non of this even approaches the scansame of BB trading actual blows with Gladiator. Also, I like how you are arguing the current AM but had to dig through scans from different eras to find something and failed at that.

Originally posted by Surtur
That in itself makes no sense though. If you can withstand a punch from a Superman level being Aquaman shouldn't be able to shank you.

I totally acknowledge some characters do have this weird piercing weakness, I'm just saying I often find it silly.

In a minor way I can kind of make sense of it comparing being hit by a blunt instrument to being hit by something sharp in nature.

Mallet vs Sword

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
How is any of this the least bit impressive? Did you actually look and rend these scans? Against AMAZO, who was not operating at herald buster levels this arc, the dialogue in the scan YOU posted reads "The bewildered android could be toppled like timber by the slightest of blows." It's like the writer is explaining exactly why AM ax handle blow hurt him. This is impressive? 😂

He threw a piece of steel through Despero from the blind side, big deal. Where is the hand to hand you promised?

I have no idea what you think you are showing us in the 3rd scan. Non of this even approaches the scansame of BB trading actual blows with Gladiator. Also, I like how you are arguing the current AM but had to dig through scans from different eras to find something and failed at that.

He sent Despero flying through a ship and then sent him back on land with a hit...

Did you read the Amazo fight arc? Same character took down MMH, Commander Steel and others in the arc, not to mention it's mentioned that he has the abilities of the original android that fought the league.

I'm aware you have no idea though

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
In a minor way I can kind of make sense of it comparing being hit by a blunt instrument to being hit by something sharp in nature.

Mallet vs Sword

For me I think a more appropriate example would be like a building sized mallet vs a regular sized sword.

Since yeah that is how much of a difference there is in strength between Aquaman and Class 100's like Superman or Captain Marvel in the PreDCnu.

Originally posted by Surtur
All I know is Aquaman shanked Despero with some rebar. Which unless it was a piece of magic rebar...makes very little sense. Perhaps Despero is weakened by water? Or rebar? Or rebar soaked in water?

😂 Who knows? That "showing" is not exactly changing hearts and minds. Did you see how he discounted all the BB scans at once? The funny part is he said "that" Gladiator, but the scans cover more than one arc.