Dathomir Talzin = RotS Sidious > Vitiate. I don't see any reason to ignore the various statements putting Sidious on top, and Talzin was able to match him. And those were testaments to Palpatine's power, which is where Vitiate would be closest to matching him; Sidious has many iterative advantages with regards to fighting skill, reflexes, etc.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Dathomir Talzin = RotS Sidious > Vitiate. I don't see any reason to ignore the various statements putting Sidious on top, and Talzin was able to match him. And those were testaments to Palpatine's power, which is where Vitiate would be closest to matching him; Sidious has many iterative advantages with regards to fighting skill, reflexes, etc.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
People tend to forget that Vitiate was powerful enough to defeat a Strike Team comprising of Revan, Meetra Surik and Lord Scourge, at this point.My vote is with Vitiate.
Actually, everybody seems to think that. What they forget was that Revan, Surik and Scourge had just as much of a chance of winning, and this was on an incredibly potent DS nexus as well.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Dathomir Talzin = RotS Sidious > Vitiate. I don't see any reason to ignore the various statements putting Sidious on top, and Talzin was able to match him. And those were testaments to Palpatine's power, which is where Vitiate would be closest to matching him; Sidious has many iterative advantages with regards to fighting skill, reflexes, etc.
Sidious > Talzin. I've no doubt that at the least Vitiate could have done just as well as she did against Sids.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Actually, everybody seems to think that. What they forget was that Revan, Surik and Scourge had just as much of a chance of winning, and this was on an incredibly potent DS nexus as well.
Revan could draw from the Dark Side! He was not hindered by it. Lord Scourge wasn't hindered by it either by virtue of being a Sith. Only Meetra Surik would be somewhat hindered.
Good God, you're still pedalling Dromund Kaas isn't an extremely powerful dark side site? I'm amazed by how much you lowball Vitiate's experiments.
Anyway, the Dark Citadel was such a powerful dark side site that Lord Scourge, in the Sith academy on the borders of Kaas City, could sustain himself for hours in combat on the energies emanating from it.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Good God, you're still pedalling Dromund Kaas isn't an extremely powerful dark side site? I'm amazed by how much you lowball Vitiate's experiments.Anyway, the Dark Citadel was such a powerful dark side site that Lord Scourge, in the Sith academy on the borders of Kaas City, could sustain himself for hours in combat on the energies emanating from it.
Yeah, we really have no substantive feats for non-nexus Vitiate. All we know is that people in-universe think he's above all previous sith, .i.e. Exar Kun, but I don't think any official source has confirmed that he had surpassed them as of the novel. I think it's a legitimate question whether he's above RotJ Vader.