Originally posted by MythLordI've been giving example of Revan's abilities almost this entire time, whether it's acknowledged or not isn't my fault.
The idea that Revan is ahead of Plagueis itself is rather questionable and even Revan's reigning champion and debater, Ant, believes Plagueis to be superior.I trust his judgement and objectivity far more than I trust yours.
It's cute and all what you think, but until you can substantiate said thoughts with anything other than literal headcanon, they shouldn't be relevant to any debater.
Originally posted by darthbane77
During the Clone Wars by himself is fine, TCW Sidious is above Revan (because TCW Sidious is practically ROTS Sidious) but as of TPM I think Revan is somewhat more powerful.
You didn't read my post, did you? Do it again:
Originally posted by MythLord
It's cute and all what you think, but until you can substantiate said thoughts with anything other than literal headcanon, they shouldn't be relevant to any debater.
Originally posted by darthbane77
I've been giving example of Revan's abilities almost this entire time, whether it's acknowledged or not isn't my fault.
You spammed some feats and said you think they're good enough, but like I said:
Originally posted by MythLord
It's cute and all what you think, but until you can substantiate said thoughts with anything other than literal headcanon, they shouldn't be relevant to any debater.
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That moment when my placement of Revan might be lower than the majority of CV / KMC. mmm
Meh, shows more objectivity, logical thinking and debating skill.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
That moment when my placement of Revan might be lower than the majority of CV / KMC. mmm
This is what happens when you float out arguments that any fanboi can latch onto and twist for their own purposes. This is why I warned you to be careful. It would've been fine if they'd just infested CV but now they're migrating...
Originally posted by MythLordI DID read it, and my response holds. I have given examples of Revan's Force abilities being able to rival those of Yoda, and by extension, Sidious.
You didn't read my post, did you? Do it again:You spammed some feats and said you think they're good enough, but like I said:
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Meh, shows more objectivity, logical thinking and debating skill.
Read my post above, again:
Originally posted by MythLord
You spammed some feats and said you think they're good enough, but like I said:
Originally posted by MythLord
It's cute and all what you think, but until you can substantiate said thoughts with anything other than literal headcanon, they shouldn't be relevant to any debater.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaNot a fanboy, a fanboy would be saying that Revan could stomp Plagueis or Sidious or that he was more powerful than Vitiate. I'm simply saying he's comparable, not superior but not vastly inferior either.
This is what happens when you float out arguments that any fanboi can latch onto and twist for their own purposes. This is why I warned you to be careful. It would've been fine if they'd just infested CV but now they're migrating...
Originally posted by darthbane77
Not a fanboy, a fanboy would be saying that Revan could stomp Plagueis or Sidious or that he was more powerful than Vitiate. I'm simply saying he's comparable, not superior but not vastly inferior either.
Nah. A fanboi would say that he's a peer of these characters despite having no showings to substantiate such a claim. :/
Originally posted by MythLordYou brought up Sidious lightning, which yes is superior to Nyriss'. But Revan's ability to almost completely absorb an immense blast of lightning from Vitiate on a powerful Dark Side nexus is a comparable feat.
I've countered your claim for Tutaminis... Your response was "I just think Revan is gewd enough to hold his own".
Originally posted by darthbane77
You brought up Sidious lightning, which yes is superior to Nyriss'. But Revan's ability to almost completely absorb an immense blast of lightning from Vitiate on a powerful Dark Side nexus is a comparable feat.
I didn't even bring up Sidious, but yes, I actually could.
Sidious is canonically ahead of a later, more powerful, incarnation of Vitiate. Therefore, the difference between him as of the novel and Palpatine should be considerable.
Add to that Yoda's considerably greater performance and you have him surpassing Revan, by a league, logically. So nah, Revan as of the novel is not within Yoda's tier.
He himself uses the Darkside. Any hindrances or boosts he may have recieved from the nexus are cancelled out.
Vitiate's power is only measurable when taking into account the Darkside nexus because that's where all his best feats occur.
Vitiate has no feat that places him on Sidious's level.
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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaMaybe not novel Vitiate, aside from his lightning. Any other version of Vitiate is easily comparable to Sidious.
He himself uses the Darkside. Any hindrances or boosts he may have recieved from the nexus are cancelled out.Vitiate's power is only measurable when taking into account the Darkside nexus because that's where all his best feats occur.
Vitiate has no feat that places him on Sidious's level.
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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNovaHis dominating the strike team in SWTOR, single-handedly draining Ziost, being powerful enough to perform a ritual that would have wiped out all life in the galaxy (sure he had some help, but it still speaks to his power that he could even conceivably achieve this). As Valkorion: easily blocking Arcann's lightsaber strikes, easily flooring Arcann with a massive blast of lightning, vaporizing a large group of soldiers with a wave of Force energy.
Provide examples please.