Novel Vitiate vs Dathomir Talzin

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
mmm
Do you have any input Ant?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe you should actually stick to shit where you know the slightest bit of what you're talking about. They were not no-names or featless. And Koon's accolade is strictly worse than the TOR Strike teams. And neither do I give the slightest shit about your opinions, since they are universally terrible. I'm simply informing you of the facts due to your complete ignorance. Be grateful.

I've no clue what you're raving about. If Vitiate had gained enough power to be at full strength and regain his form just via possessing Ziost and feeding on them then he wouldn't need to have wiped out the planet to do so.

If you like. I rather think be capable of wiping out the galaxy is impressive regardless of needing a few billion deaths as collateral. And for the record he is shown achieving this feat in a vision at a later point without any genocidal requirements.

Then tell me some of these 3 Jedi's ( aside from HoT and Tol Braga ) feats. 🙂 Tell me what makes them so powerful outside of your accolade.

Maybe he simply wanted to be even more powerful then before? Nah, that couldn't possibly have been a motive for a power hungry being to drain the planet.

Given we have no idea how much power is generated from a single death and have no viable way of measuring the energy drawing on billions of deaths is capable of generating you can be impressed with his attempted ritual as much as you like. It doesn't make it in any way quantifiable. What vision are you referring to?

Btw are you trying to argue that Vitiate can be scaled off of a vision? :/

Originally posted by darthbane77
Do you have any input Ant?

Vitiate defeats Talzin.

Originally posted by darthbane77
The feat is impressive nonetheless, as he needed to concentrate all that power for use in the first place.

Given we're trying to quantify his power off the feats in question we can't very well assess his power off of that.

I.E. You can't assess someone's power off of a feat they attempted to accomplish using all of their power when you don't know what their power is beforehand.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Do you have any input Ant?

He's already stated he disagrees with you. Move on.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He's already stated he disagrees with you. Move on.

On what?

That Revan is more powerful then Sidious.

What incarnation of Palpatine?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
What incarnation of Palpatine?
I stated my opinion that Revan is potentially more powerful than TPM Sidious.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He's already stated he disagrees with you. Move on.
I was referring to the context of the current debate about how powerful Vitiate is.

Originally posted by darthbane77
I stated my opinion that Revan is potentially more powerful than TPM Sidious.

Your unsubstantiated opinion.

Also you said he IS more powerful and that he was approaching RotS Sidious and Yoda in power.

I said he's between TPM and ROTS Sidious

You said he's comparable to RotS Sidious.

Comparable isn't equal. His feats as of SoR are extremely impressive, fighting two separate strike teams and fighting them incredibly well; both strike teams being more impressive that the B-team that Sidious blitzed.

You're right, comparable isn't equal. Now point out to me where I said that. Because if I recall correctly, this is what I said.

and that he was approaching RotS Sidious and Yoda

I would argue that Mace and the B team are better then Revan's strike team tbh.

You didn't say comparable was equal, I was just making sure you knew that I didn't think they were. The B-tam vs Revan's strike teams would be an interesting topic now that I think about it.

Originally posted by darthbane77
You didn't say comparable was equal, I was just making sure you knew that I didn't think they were.

The B-team vs Revan's strike teams would be an interesting topic now that I think about it.

But I in the post 2 above us I say that you say they're comparable not equal. I just don't understand why you thought I would think that.

Yeah.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I don't recall entire planet to be considered as a nexus of Dark Side energy! It wasn't.

Revan could draw from the Dark Side! He was not hindered by it. Lord Scourge wasn't hindered by it either by virtue of being a Sith. Only Meetra Surik would be somewhat hindered.

Really?

The powerful electrical storms were a physical manifestation of the dark side power that engulfed the entire planet—a power that had brought the Sith back here a millennium before, when their very survival had been in doubt.

-- The Old Republic: Revan

Not to mention the trio fought Vitiate inside his Citadel, the dark side energies of which Scourge explicitly noted he drew upon even at a considerable distance:

A decade earlier, when Scourge had first arrived on Dromund Kaas as a young apprentice, he had vowed to one day set foot inside the citadel’s exclusive halls. Yet in all his years of training at the Sith Academy on Kaas City’s borders, he had never been granted the privilege. He had been one of the top students, marked by his superiors for his strength in the Force and his fanatic devotion to the ways of the Sith. But acolytes were not permitted inside the citadel; its secrets were reserved for those in direct service to the Emperor and the Dark Council.

The dark side power emanating from within the building was undeniable; he had felt the raw, crackling energy every day during his years as an acolyte. He had drawn on it, focusing his mind and spirit to channel the power through his own body to sustain him during the brutal training sessions.

-- The Old Republic: Revan[/b]

Well now, how could Legend miss a small detail like that? 🙄