Originally posted by Deronn_soloIt's hardly a theory when SWTOR.com states that "the planet is bristling with the energy of the dark side"
How the the entire planet not a nexus, when it sported non-stop thunderstorms because of Vitiate's darkside experimenets? Sounds like the dark side has some sort of grip on it, and Revan commenting about his senses being vitiated [no pun intended] gives more credence to that theory.LMAO.
Originally posted by Sinious
The guy can one-shot Revan. :/
Only when he raises his hands* to gather his energies*, and Revan decides to stop his advance and catch his blast* with tutanimus. His uncharged bolts* were being batted back at him*. In comparison, Sidious's lightning pushed the tutanimus of his relative equal, Yoda, to near its limits.
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* on one of the most powerful dark side nexuses in the galaxy
Vitiate wins this, even as of the novel he was the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's long history. This is the guy who nearly barbecued Revan Reborn, albeit with some difficulty, but I doubt somebody as powerful as that; who can dominate minds, turn an entire planet into a nexus by sitting down for a little while, floor Revan, and is so powerful that Marka Ragnos made a 13 year old A Sith Lord, is going to get beat by Talzin. Will it be a decent fight, most definitely, Talzin won't go down easily; but she will go down.
Originally posted by darthbane77
Vitiate wins this, even as of the novel he was the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's long history.
Sidious, amped Talzin's equal, has this accolade stretched out even further.
This is the guy who nearly barbecued Revan Reborn, albeit with some difficulty,
Talzin stalemated Sidious, so she wouldn't be too impressed.
but I doubt somebody as powerful as that; who can dominate minds, turn an entire planet into a nexus by sitting down for a little while, floor Revan, and is so powerful that Marka Ragnos made a 13 year old A Sith Lord, is going to get beat by Talzin. Will it be a decent fight, most definitely, Talzin won't go down easily; but she will go down.
Novel Vitiate struggled against Revan despite being on a powerful dark side nexus. Dathomir! Talzin is an equal to RotS Sidious, the most powerful sith lord in galactic history. She clearly wins via transitive property.
ROTS Sidious being the most powerful Sith in history is highly contestable. Vitiate has Force feats putting him equal to ROTS Sidious, if not slightly above. Sidious advantage is his OP skill with a lightsaber. Talzin is incredibly powerful but Sidious is superior in the Force, and Vitiate is arguably Sidious' superior.
Originally posted by darthbane77
ROTS Sidious being the most powerful Sith in history is highly contestable.
It's been repeated in enough sources that denying it becomes pretty sophistic.
Vitiate has Force feats putting him equal to ROTS Sidious, if not slightly above.
When has novel Vitiate done anything on RotS Sidious's level without a nexus?
His nexus-amped lightning couldn't overpower Revan without him gathering his energies; Sidious was able to push Yoda to his limits. And Yoda is explicitly the most powerful Jedi to his time in history.
Sidious advantage is his OP skill with a lightsaber. Talzin is incredibly powerful but Sidious is superior in the Force, and Vitiate is arguably Sidious' superior.
Vitiate never surpasses RotS Sidious; he certainly hasn't by the Revan novel.
Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord overall, his power in the Force and skill with a blade; as well as knowledge, make him incredibly powerful. Vitiate has Force feats that put him equal to or slightly greater in the Force alone, so Sidious is still more "powerful" overall. The Lightning point you made isn't really a point, Revan's raw power is equal to that of Yoda's; though obviously Yoda is superior in other regards.
Look at all Revan's feats from his first ones up to his book, Revan is obviously a Yoda tier combatant. Raw power, he absorbed lightning capable of incinerating Meetra and Scourge and redirected it with ease; that's as impressive as almost any tutaminis feat Yoda has displayed, save for stalemating Sidious lightning with tutaminis. In terms of raw power, easily grabbing and throwing asteroids at his opponents on the Foundry; he did this while he massively weakened. Revan himself in the novel would also have been weakened, yet was still able to contend with Vitiate. So yes, Revan is equal to Yoda in raw power. Vitiate's lightning in the novel was stated to be "infinitely more powerful" than Nyriss', now I know this is an exaggeration, but it gets across the message that Vitiate's lightning was far more powerful than lightning that was already capable of incinerating people. So there's a feat for Vitiate AND Revan, because Revan was able to absorb most of the lightning and tanked the rest.
Then why are you spouting pure cancer here? Deflecting Nyriss lightning isn't on the same plane as doing so with Sidious' FL, neither is dropping a some bus size meteorites, kek. That's not even impressive to a half-dead Vader decades before his prime, lmao. Yoda has that outmatched 100 fold, by destroying two 100 meter droid landing vessels --- even accounting for Revan being weakened, lmao.