Originally posted by MS WarehouseThis is an ironic thing to say within the contexts of ignoring half my response, shall I assume a concession on that front, or is it pending?
No, it hasn't been proven substantially. You keep claiming this but repeating the same mantra doesn't make it so. If you want to argue that Plagueis>Revan, feel free but until then, you may cease with the baseless assertions.
Regardless, on top of what's already been noted, there is Plagueis' combative proximity to Darth Sidious, and the fact his powers are an order of magnitude greater than that of Darth Bane's, neither of which Novel!Revan can claim.
And that fact is irrelevant if Vitiate can mind dominate him before that. As we've seen, thus far the only technique to disrupt the Emperor's mind dominating powers is channeling the light and dark side of the force into oneness or whatever Revan did (after mentally preparing for years). If you want to argue Plagueis can block it, feel free.So you are making this shit!tier argument after all? Lmao. First of all Revan's Force-in-balance technique wasn't what was responsible for his resistance of Vitiate's TP, otherwise he wouldn't have been able to teach it to Meetra or Scourge. Neither would Lana Beniko or the HoTLander be able to resist his TP also.
To put it bluntly the idea that a special power is needed to counter Vitiate's TP is baseless, whereas the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate he can TP someone of Plagueis calibre, when he has never successfully done so.
Except he was shown to be gathering his energy [b]in the middle of the same fight, and finally overwhelming Revan. Therefore, it doesn't matter when he decides to gather energy if he's shown to do it during a fight, does it?[/b]That wasn't my point, my point was that he was evidently taking Revan seriously, not holding back as you were suggesting. Regardless though Vitiate was in "the middle of a fight" he still benefitted from the distance between himself and his opponent, Revan simply wasn't able to close the gap in time to prevent him from charging up his attacks, nor did he have the power to interrupt Vitiate by engaging him in a wizard's duel. Plagueis should be capable of both.
Yup, a nexus he intensified simply with his [b]presence.[/b]Aside from the fact that this doesn't prevent him from using the power already there you are wrong. As I've already said he intensified by performing rituals. I have no idea where you got the notion that he achieved it with his presence alone.
There is no guaranteee Plagueis will be able to withstand his mental domination either. So?There is also no guarantee that it will start raining men tomorrow, I'm not holding my breath.
Judging by what the Plagueis supporters have offered, not much is required from the Vitiate supporters.A concession doesn't take much effort to type, true.