Originally posted by Rebel95
Canon takes precedence over legends.
It's not a matter of one taking precedence over the other; they're separate universes. But this is the EU forum, and like 90% of the threads use EU/legends characters.
And statements aside, Anakin has never displayed force feats on Vader's level.
He likely does not have the same mastery of telekinesis, no, although feats are not the end all be all of analysis. But Anakin's combative feats are better when you scale them, as are his accolades.
Let's talk about his accolades; what is your basis for just dismissing the six or so in and out of universe narrators putting Anakin on Yoda and Sidious's tier? At a certain point it becomes pedantic to find the most ridiculous reason to be skeptical. It's a growing pile of well documented evidence.
Only zonakin could take Vader, and that was a very rare case. Vader would win 8 or 9 times out of 10 in my opinion. Anakin's not consistent enough.
Anakin was owning Dooku, while Vader held only a slight advantage over old Ben.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Really Haggis? How interesting. Mind posting some of them since this seems to be a stance your in support of and you obviously wouldn't unless you had seen the evidence for yourself. 🙂
It's currently 03:55 am in Scotland. I'll post an argument later today once I get some sleep.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
It's not a matter of one taking precedence over the other; they're separate universes. But this is the EU forum, and like 90% of the threads use EU/legends characters.He likely does not have the same mastery of telekinesis, no, although feats are not the end all be all of analysis. But Anakin's combative feats are better when you scale them, as are his accolades.
Let's talk about his accolades; what is your basis for just dismissing the six or so in and out of universe narrators putting Anakin on Yoda and Sidious's tier? At a certain point it becomes pedantic to find the most ridiculous reason to be skeptical. It's a growing pile of well documented evidence.
Anakin was owning Dooku, while Vader held only a slight advantage over old Ben.
Anakin really doesn't have any impressive combat feats other than his duel with Dooku, which like I said, was highly circumstantial and I doubt he could replicate it again.
Where has it ever been said that Anakin is on Yoda's and Sidious's level? That's totally ridiculous.
Anakin wasn't owning Dooku until he got a rage amp, which like I said, he's never performed at that level before, and unless he does, he doesn't really have a chance against Vader who's been stated in several sources to have grown in power since he gained the suit.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Fair enough, but I prefer using canon in debates with canon characters because legends is basically just fan fiction at this point, not to say I don't enjoy itAnakin really doesn't have any impressive combat feats other than his duel with Dooku, which like I said, was highly circumstantial and I doubt he could replicate it again.
Where has it ever been said that Anakin is on Yoda's and Sidious's level? That's totally ridiculous.
Anakin wasn't owning Dooku until he got a rage amp, which like I said, he's never performed at that level before, and unless he does, he doesn't really have a chance against Vader who's been stated in several sources to have grown in power since he gained the suit.
I think it's clear from the movie that until he was provoked by Dooku TKing Obi Wan, Dooku was fending off Anakin and Obi Wan together easily and then tosses Anakin aside with ease while TKing Obi Wan.
He can't perform at Vader's level consistently, maybe on rare occasion so I'd give Vader 8-9/10 against Anakin
Originally posted by SunRazer
Canon has Sidious performing similarly to Vader despite revealing "so little of his true power". In Legends, the gap is probably worse.
That was in LOTS, a decade prior to Vader being in his Prime.
Originally posted by Rebel95
Canon Vader is a top tier combatant. Legends, yeah the gap is greater
I think even in Legends they were reducing that gap by TFU.