Is Dooku > Vader?

Holy f*ck. Stop editing your posts it makes this an even bigger mess then it already is.

I'm pretty sure >Dooku tiers have been described feeling fatigued, but maybe not. It usually accompanies some sort of injury.

Do we conclude then that Shimrra really is a Luke-tier duelist? Most just say that Luke was tired.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
So you're still going with force users Dooku level or above have infinite stamina? Lmao.

I didn't say he has infinite stamina. That's the junior novel's outlier depiction.

I do think that they can wash their fatigue away with a moment's respite, though, which the novel supports.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
It was "easy" in that he did it in one move and essentially ragdolled him, but it still took all of his energy. Usain Bolt easily won the gold this summer, but he still gave it his all.

^ at least, that's the best rationalization, I would think.

The quotes imply he does so with a negligible amount of his power.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I didn't say he has infinite stamina. That's the junior novel's outlier depiction.

I do think that they can wash their fatigue away with a moment's respite, though, which the novel supports.

I agree but yours and my definition of fatigue may be different. I believe they can wash away physical tiredness but are still using force reserves when doing so which if hey ran out would leave the Force user at their base physical level. What you seem to believe is that they can actually refill their force reserves during a respite.

Well as he rejuvenated himself in seconds, it seems to be the case. Like he expended his short term reserves, but hardly his long term ones.

Doesn't seem to be the case when he's apparently about to pass out in general from an assault by Anakin.

Because Anakin is that powerful. 👆

Anakin being that powerful doesn't contradict what I said.

I mean he was on the verge of passing out because of Anakin, not being he had to TK Obi Wan.

Not really the point. I'm saying that if he's about to pass out it's not just his short term reserves being depleted at that point.

Oh, I was responding to "the quotes imply he does so with a negligible amount of his power" with respect to his taking out Obi Wan.

Anyway, we're getting a little off topic. We should make a dedicated Anakin vs. Dooku thread.

Ah, sorry. Thought you were responding to the Nova thing.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I agree but yours and my definition of fatigue may be different. I believe they can wash away physical tiredness but are still using force reserves when doing so which if hey ran out would leave the Force user at their base physical level. What you seem to believe is that they can actually refill their force reserves during a respite.

You can definitely wash away physical strain. Refreshing your Force reserves does exist in the lore, IIRC, but I don't know if you can do that at a moment's notice. It is possible that Dooku was refreshing his Force reserves, though.

By meditation. That's about the only method I can recall allowing you to do so and not one you can reasonably enact in combat.

I'd disagree there.

On topic I really don't see Dooku ragdolling Old Ben, and Vader has many feats outside TFU that outstrip Dooku's accomplishments.

Then within the scope of Canon, he's confirmed to be Dooku's superior many times over.

RotS Dooku should be > ANH Vader, but RotJ Vader is > RotS Dooku; ESB Vader is more-or-less his equal, or perhaps slight superior.

Honestly, if anything, Tyranus seems more skilled, but Vader has the advantage with respect to both Force power and physical fortitude (by a colossal margin).

Colossal? No, not really. Enough to give Dooku extreme difficulty in a duel, definitely.

I said Vader's physical fortitude (strength and durability) was superior to Dooku by a colossal margin, and it is.