Did Lucas fail to make Anakin a compelling character?

The ideal of Anakin as the tragic hero seems to me at best just something that exists on paper. Throughout TCW we don't see his motivations as well as in the Stover novelization of ROTS, and in the movies to many viewers he comes across as a Whiny and angsty ****. What moments in TCW or in other related novels in Legends do you see Anakin closely resembling the ideal of the tragic hero? Where do you think Lucas messed up in his portrayal of Anakin in the films?

Casting Hayden. Awful, awful choice.

He seemed fine to me in the movies. /Shrug

Anakin, in The Clone Wars, is one of my favorite Star Wars characters, tbh.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Anakin, in The Clone Wars, is one of my favorite Star Wars characters, tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Casting Hayden. Awful, awful choice.

Anakin, along with Dooku, is my favorite SW character of all-time. My favorite portrayal of him is in TCW.

Examples of him portrayed as the tragic hero:

- First one which comes to mind is when Tano leaves him
- Next is when Kenobi's death is faked
- Many of the scenes with Padme

I agree that his portrayal in RotS movie is god awful and overall an unlikable character.

What a horrible opinion you have.

Anakin is awesome and great within TCW and many novels.

Movie Anakin is a ****, emotionally unstable teen, and that kind of a genius that still has asperger and 0 social ability or comprehension.

TCW is pretty much the only time I have ever found Anakin (not Vader) compelling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What a horrible opinion you have.

It's more that he was designed to be a whiny, self-entitled narcissist; that's what made the PT tragic.

Originally posted by Kurk
please elaborate

Originally posted by quanchi112
You like shitty characters.

Let's see who Quanchi's favorite canon characters were earlier this year :

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Snoke
2. Darth Maul
3. Palpatine
4. Kylo Ren
5. Darth Vader
6. Count Dooku
7. Yoda
8. General Grievous
9. Obi Wan Kenobi
10. Jango Fett

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=621734&pagenumber=2

Funny how he hates on half of them

Originally posted by Kurk
not an argument

Originally posted by Kurk
Let's see who Quanchi's favorite canon characters were earlier this year :

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=621734&pagenumber=2

Funny how he hates on half of them

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Originally posted by quanchi112
You asked me to elaborate on a subjective topic. I did so. I have done so at length with regards to the characters you choose to champion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You asked me to elaborate on a subjective topic. I did so. I have done so at length with regards to the characters you choose to champion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That just shows how objective I am. Thanks for giving me the assist.

🙂

Originally posted by Kurk
You originally criticized my opinion on Anakin as a character with "what a horrible opinion you have". I asked you to elaborate as to what aspect you disagree with. You responded with "you like shitty characters". I'm assuming you don't have anything rational to say in regards to the actual story of Anakin and his development as a character, regardless of his failures.

I agree that Anakin is a failure. This goes along with the theme of a tragic hero. It is about this particular aspect that I'm asking for your opinion on. You've only expressed your irrational feelings to me so far.

So you constantly bash on Yoda, Vader, Dooku, and Kenobi, yet they make your top 10 list. Explain how that works?

His own actions caused him to fail. And yet he didn't see any of that and refused to grow as a person. I enjoyed his suffering and pain. I smiled when he got on his charred knees when he learned about Padme's death. Stay girlie, Anakin.

Obviously the Star Wars top ten list has a lot of weaklings and morons on it. I don't excuse stupidity unlike yourself, Anakin-gay/boi.

Yeah; it still doesn't change the fact that he, as a character, was a total asswipe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is opinion based and will come down to us debating whether blue is a cool color or not. You can't prove anything but I'll dissect it since you're begging for my help. Anakin was not tragic in the sense he took absolutely no responsibility for anything that occurred in his life. Like an emotionally retarded child he would always sob over anything that he deemed unfair. His lack of charisma, his tears, his pouting, his manipulation at the hands of Palpatine to the point the one lynchpin was dead. Despite padme's death he still faithfully served him and delivered his own son into that monsters hands. He was a truly disgusting emotional retarded from birth to death.

His own actions caused him to fail. And yet he didn't see any of that and refused to grow as a person. I enjoyed his suffering and pain. I smiled when he got on his charred knees when he learned about Padme's death. Stay girlie, Anakin.

Obviously the Star Wars top ten list has a lot of weaklings and morons on it. I don't excuse stupidity unlike yourself, Anakin-gay/boi.