Did Lucas fail to make Anakin a compelling character?

Started by quanchi1126 pages

Originally posted by Kurk
I had to impersonate you somehow...
You were being yourself. Annoying you were.

Originally posted by Kurk
Let's see who Quanchi's favorite canon characters were earlier this year :

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=621734&pagenumber=2

Funny how he hates on half of them

Well he's a Star Wars Hater so makes sense.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well he's a Star Wars Hater so makes sense.
I am as objective as they come and a Snoke fan first and foremost.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I am as [b]objective as they come and a Snoke fan first and foremost. [/B]

Aside of casting Hayden (which I'm not entirely sure, that it was mistake at all), Lucas should make Anakin older. Luke, Han, Leia, Obi-Wan and Padme, all had 3 movies. Anakin has just a two. More then that, there was a lot of wasted time for Qui-Gon. We should see much more relationships between Anakin-Obi-Wan or Anakin-Padme. Anakin at the age 15-18 would be much more convincing as:
- as a future Padme's lover
- as podrace winner
- as savior during final battle
Fall of Anakin would be much better, if PT would be a real trylogy. TPM fails as part of trylogy and part of Saga.

Makes sense Quanchi is the no.1 Snoke fan. Given Snoke has no character, feats or personality as of now, but Quanchi is desperate to jump onto a NU SW Villain whose better than Vader.

He was supposed to jump onto Kylo, but then TFA made it clear Kylo wasn't as powerful, so he had to jump wagon onto Snoke instead. He's now desperately hoping they don't say the same about Snoke 😂

Originally posted by Kurk
Do not be upset. Maybe when you beg to be my apprentice again I'll allow it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Makes sense Quanchi is the no.1 Snoke fan. Given Snoke has no character, feats or personality as of now, but Quanchi is desperate to jump onto a NU SW Villain whose better than Vader.

He was supposed to jump onto Kylo, but then TFA made it clear Kylo wasn't as powerful, so he had to jump wagon onto Snoke instead. He's now desperately hoping they don't say the same about Snoke 😂

So you are lying once again. It's like saying Windu didn't have a personality. Snoke is my cup of tea. Immensely powerful and not as foolish as Palpatine. Kylo is greater than Vader as well IMO.

Both are greater than their predecessors. I also was more excited about Snoke before the film making me the first. I am always the trend setter unlike your fickle obsessions over the years. Kylo's power will also grow while Vader's power when he first was confined to the suit was hilariously diminished making your comment ironic.

Long live the First Order.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you are lying once again. It's like saying Windu didn't have a personality. Snoke is my cup of tea. Immensely powerful and not as foolish as Palpatine. Kylo is greater than Vader as well IMO.

Both are greater than their predecessors. I also was more excited about Snoke before the film making me the first. I am always the trend setter unlike your fickle obsessions over the years. Kylo's power will also grow while Vader's power when he first was confined to the suit was hilariously diminished making your comment ironic.

Long live the First Order.

is there anything to suggest that Snoke isn't "foolish like Palpatine" based on his showings so far?

I mean what's the difference between:
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and
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Originally posted by Kurk
is there anything to suggest that Snoke isn't "foolish like Palpatine" based on his showings so far?

I mean what's the difference between:
YouTube video
and
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Rotj. Palpatine's actions in that film were naive, stupid, and far too trusting when he never had to put himself in the position just to acquire Luke.

Originally posted by Kurk
I mean what's the difference between:
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and
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Other then the fact that the second clip is infinitely more compelling? Not much sadly.

This anti Snoke propaganda will stop I guarantee it. You people really are living in the past with that doomed emperor Palpatine.

Honestly the villains were the worst thing about TFA. The strengths of the film were in the heroes IMO.

Movie Anakin could've benefited from:

- displaying some ramifications for the Tusken slaughter
- having some sort of ideological conflict beyond just love and hormones
- more altruistic moments to make him look like a hero

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Honestly the villains were the worst thing about TFA. The strengths of the film were in the heroes IMO.

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Yes, Snoke was poor. But Kylo was great.

As for the heroes, well, even they aren't all that compelling. Well acted certainly, but all of them had little substance.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This anti Snoke propaganda will stop I guarantee it. You people really are living in the past with that doomed emperor Palpatine.

I hope so. I had high hopes going in but was let down immensely. Hopefully, Rian Johnson can make him compelling or, better yet, have Kylo usurp Snoke to help further differentiate the ST from the OT.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Honestly the villains were the worst thing about TFA. The strengths of the film were in the heroes IMO.
You make me sick. The heroes were weaker than the villains by far. So you basically like Rey and Finn better than Snoke and Kylo. Ewwwwwww.

Originally posted by ares834
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Yes, Snoke was poor. But Kylo was great.

As for the heroes, well, even they aren't all that compelling. Well acted certainly, but all of them had little substance.

Nah, Finn was great to watch every scene he was in. And Harrison Ford gave a great performance as the old Han. Even Chewie was funny in almost every scene, and we know BB8 nailed it. Rey was interesting as well. And of course the best scene in the entire film is when we finally see Luke.

Kylo on the other hand was just a cry baby. Instead of making him intimidating they used him for laughs.

No more cry baby villains for the next one please. Bring back that feeling when Vader walks into the room. Or when the doors open and you see Maul standing there. And if they can't do intimidating then at least give us the gravitas of a Dooku or a manipulative type like Palpatine.

PT story arc is terrible.

The war should have played a role in downfall of Anakin Skywalker. Witnessing death and destruction around him and being part of it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
PT story arc is terrible.

The war should have played a role in downfall of Anakin Skywalker. Witnessing death and destruction around him and being part of it.

Kind of like Revan.