Skill becomes nullified by distance. This isn't going to be one of those long drawn out fights. Spidey webs him up, slows him down by impact webbing, and turns him into the human wrecking ball until he passes out. Using the door simply means that he can't deal with Spiderman and must go for BFR. Carver always removes that option, unless he's left it open. In that case Mids can win via BFR. Spidey wins everything else.
Originally posted by carver9
I never use bfr in my threads. Dark knows this.
I know, but the OP... And DS knows that it's well past the time to allowed to alter the thread's Opening Post rules.
Lizard, Rhino, Venom, Morlun, Carnage, Vulture, Green Goblin's, Hobgoblin, Firelord, Namor, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Thunder Strike, Scorpion, Daredevil, Juggernaut just to name several of the characters that Spiderman has tangled with. I realize that people don't want to get into a feat war, but I can't, nor should anyone forget the wars that Spiderman has waged. What has Midnighter done? He's beaten up on jobbers and hacks? And Lulz at Karnak beating a serious and focused Spiderman for a majority. Karnak would be webbed up and one shot, by a serious Spiderman.
Doors do not necessarily mean BFR (even if Carver did not turn it off - silly boy).
Props to riv for inspiring me.
Here, Midnighter says that he can BFR specific body parts (in this case, kneecaps).
Doesn't have to BFR them 2 blocks away. He could open doors, and send Spidey's spine 5 meters away.
Let me explain what is happening in the following scans. Mids is allowing the Bat family use of his doors, and they are being creative with its use. Red Hood gets all cocky, and tells Midnighter 'that's how you do it' (IOW, use doors).
Midnighter retorts that if he does it, their kneecaps would be 2 blocks away.
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Carver, if someone threatens to do something without actually doing it (like Surfer did with Gladiator), would you accept it?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Doors do not necessarily mean BFR (even if Carver did not turn it off - silly boy).Props to riv for inspiring me.
Here, Midnighter says that he can BFR specific body parts (in this case, kneecaps).
Doesn't have to BFR them 2 blocks away. He could open doors, and send Spidey's spine 5 meters away.
Let me explain what is happening in the following scans. Mids is allowing the Bat family use of his doors, and they are being creative with its use. Red Hood gets all cocky, and tells Midnighter 'that's how you do it' (IOW, use doors).
Midnighter retorts that if he does it, their kneecaps would be 2 blocks away.
https://s5.postimg.org/iikgqpn9z/33_03.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/xskbxwis7/33_04.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/3p5t5yfiv/33_05.jpgCarver, if someone threatens to do something without actually doing it (like Surfer did with Gladiator), would you accept it?
Yeah, so once again, without the option of using an external device to win, Midnighter loses. Not to mention that Spidey may just be able to avoid it altogether. BFR of limbs or his entire body is his best bet. Carver turned it off though so there's that.
Desperation. With that said, when it comes down to someone using doors to rip limbs off, this means that the other character have the advantage in straight up combat. Thanks everyone for participating in this thread. I finally got the answer I needed. In a physical confrontation, Spiderman destroys 10/10.
Make the thread, it's not my fault you made a whack thread.
If you need to handicap one side, go for it. Just shows that Midnighter, as written, is too much for many streets without proper powersets.
Edit: Next thread: Midnighter with hands tied vs X. Midnighter with no legs vs Panther. Midnighter with no fighting skills vs Shang Chi.
Then you can claim whatever you like 🙂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's not BFRing though.He's ripping it out of him. Like I said, he's not sending it 2 blocks away...I mean, sending it 2 feet away is enough.
In that case, he'd end up defeating many characters outside of his weight class, but it still does not answer the question of who would win using their typical weaponry, and physical tools. Heck Midnighter can say Door to Black Adam, and cut his head off if it appears in the right place. So, sure that is a viable win, but an incredibly cheap one.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Make the thread, it's not my fault you made a whack thread.If you need to handicap one side, go for it. Just shows that Midnighter, as written, is too much for many streets without proper powersets.
Lol...door is an ability that has been handed down to the bat family before. It's not Midnighter who's beating Spiderman, it's a plot device used for traveling that is beating Spiderman. No one mentions in a Darkseid vs Thanos thread Darkseid pulling out a mother box to defeat Thanos because that is WHACK and desperate. Stop finding the easy route to every battle and debate for a change.
Anyways, you answered my question already. Spiderman stomps 10/10 unless Midnighter use a plot to change the tide. You rock!!!
Originally posted by Stoic
In that case, he'd end up defeating many characters outside of his weight class, but it still does not answer the question of who would win using their typical weaponry, and physical tools. Heck Midnighter can say Door to Black Adam, and cut his head off if it appears in the right place. So, sure that is a viable win, but an incredibly cheap one.
But its....typical weaponry lol. And his usual tools....
Originally posted by Stoic
In that case, he'd end up defeating many characters outside of his weight class, but it still does not answer the question of who would win using their typical weaponry, and physical tools. Heck Midnighter can say Door to Black Adam, and cut his head off if it appears in the right place. So, sure that is a viable win, but an incredibly cheap one.
Exactly. It's sad that I have to provide so much detail so that one person on this site won't mention bfr every chance he gets. He's known for it.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...door is an ability that has been handed down to the bat family before. It's not Midnighter who's beating Spiderman, it's a plot device used for traveling that is beating Spiderman. No one mentions in a Darkseid vs Thanos thread Darkseid pulling out a mother box to defeat Thanos because that is WHACK and desperate. Stop finding the easy route to every battle and debate for a change.Anyways, you answered my question already. Spiderman stomps 10/10 unless Midnighter use a plot to change the tide. You rock!!!
Lol through the blessing of Midnighter.
Shall we go through the number of times DS has used a motherbox vs the number of times Midnighter has used a door? We can go scan for scan.
Easy route? Almost like....Midnighter would, in character. We debate characters here, not powersets 🙂
You sound butthurt, which is the first time I've ever seen lol.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol through the blessing of Midnighter.Shall we go through the number of times DS has used a motherbox vs the number of times Midnighter has used a door? We can go scan for scan.
Easy route? Almost like....Midnighter would, in character. We debate characters here, not powersets 🙂
You sound butthurt, which is the first time I've ever seen lol.
I'm not butthurt. I just told you I received the answer I needed. Spiderman wins 10/10. You and Stoic can continue if you two want to keep the thread going. Sending Bada a pm to close the thread. I'm satisfied.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not butthurt. I just told you I received the answer I needed. Spiderman wins 10/10. You and Stoic can continue if you two want to keep the thread going. Sending Bada a pm to close the thread. I'm satisfied.
Thanks.
Handicap threads are fine, unless you deliberately opened a spite thread.
And you accuse poor Zack of doing it 🙁
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thanks.Handicap threads are fine, unless you deliberately opened a spite thread.
And you accuse poor Zack of doing it 🙁
Lol...Naah, you're the master of picking and choosing (DC and Marvel). I like how you brought up bfr here.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=635874&pagenumber=3
I can post more threads where you fail to mention it when it is highly possible it could be used (Marvel vs DC)
