Originally posted by Sin I AM
Im not saying it's right Raoul ijs Beast sucks ass at h2h
He's not say, Wolverine or even Cyclops level no, but he is competent. Competent enough that his physical stats are used pretty well when he needs them to be.
His physical advantage over a lot of those guys is pretty big, I would argue. More than enough to account for any lack of comparative skill.
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[b]Ahhh, young, Carver, you have MUCH to learn!I met ALL of the necessary criteria to establish my FLAWLESS analysis as an answer to your question.
1. Consistency- Both appearances involving The Hulk vs SunGod and Hyperion were under the same writer.
2. Context- The combatants were all at their best during the aforementioned battles.
3.Clarity- There was a definitive result in both battles allowing for a clear appraisal of everyone's abilities!
As the, KING OF CANON, I am ALWAYS fair and balanced!!! [/B]
This?
Squirrel Girl meets all of these criteria. She lacks the feats, but consistently, she shows she can clearly beat Doom, Thanos, Terrax, MODOK, Pluto etc.
Are they all PIS, context driven, just so the writer can tell a good story? Of course.
But then, so are the other fights. Death of Superman: we all knew that Doomsday would kill Superman as soon as we pick the comic up - it was a foregone conclusion. We all knew that BB would fail to defeat Hulk in the first issue of WWH. GR would fail. Strange etc would all fail. Because it was all plot driven - you can't end the first issue of a storyline called 'Death of Superman' with Supes killing Doomy in the first issue, lol.
And likewise with Cap Marvel and Superman.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fighting evenly, wouldn't say beating.Although, Eclipse makes you incredibly bloodlusted and not holding back, so no bad showing if he was being beaten.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
New Eclipso just made reference to being stronger as the characters were unaware of their limitations. Not actually stronger, per se, but just uninhibited.Batman took that like a champ against WW. Who's still the God of War, IIRC.
I feel like I skimmed past some of this when reading, you got any scans??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This?Squirrel Girl meets all of these criteria. She lacks the feats, but consistently, she shows she can clearly beat Doom, Thanos, Terrax, MODOK, Pluto etc.
"She lacks the feats"
This is critical, grasshopper, in the making of my equation.
There MUST be feats in order to make the argument work in conjunction with everything else.
Darksaint's grade- B-
Feats don't mean squat most of the time. A character can go and one-shot a massive planet then lift a Sun yet get his behind stomped by someone who has never lifted a city. Even vice versa, he can get his butt stomped and then proceed to do these feats. Either way he got his tail kicked by character X. That's what people will throw in your face in a debate.
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I feel like I skimmed past some of this when reading, you got any scans??
Justice League #13.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0X06zg1plqw/WH9z-XT4CKI/AAAAAAABmyk/49miN2UdIEYmSBE_sjIyTzcEba5p9mxewCLcB/s1600/12_05.jpg
Meanwhile, Batman is fighting WW:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-325Ka0ZuvRY/WIqkdK60aSI/AAAAAAABqdU/Ei64Tzqgq_E59UEZKoWesTnnYKLZbh6nQCLcB/s1600/33_003.jpg
And outrunning HV from Supes:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4YE61fVjlYE/WIqkfxxEMVI/AAAAAAABqdo/J-ejOY55c1g5k27LXSI5XDJCFUbRq1aSACLcB/s1600/33_009.jpg
So yeah, if fights are all that matter...Batman can take beatings from a bloodlusted God of War WW, and outrun HV after it has been fired from a bloodlusted Supes.
Flash, meanwhile, dismantled 10,000 WMDs across the world:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TB0OT5Z0iTw/WH-VjcMa3dI/AAAAAAABnAA/J26jPbD_wgYJiAEZ-idijtQeYOe00K-iQCLcB/s1600/22_01.jpg
Assuming DC Earth is the same as IRL:
http://thebulletin.org/nuclear-notebook-multimedia
