I think it's relatively pointless to assign a blanket number ahead of time. It should be a bit more dynamic than that. Take in some, whatever number we feel like we can accommodate initially, and then see if we should take more.
It's not like we were taking in massive numbers of them anyways, and it's not like we are just letting them in willy nilly. It takes upwards of 2 years for a refugee to get fully vetted and resettled in America. The way Trump and those against refugees talk about it they make it sound like anyone can just get on a plane and come to America without any checks on their background.
I think it was pretty pointless to make any changes to how we were handling refugees, since we haven't had any actual problems with them. Trump's ban is essentially a reaction to nothing.
Originally posted by Surtur
How many do we usually take in on average per year?
I'm not sure how many per year, but overall we've taken in a little over 14,000, which is much less than many other countries.
https://qz.com/894439/how-many-refugees-has-the-us-taken-in-from-syria/
Originally posted by BackFire
I think it's relatively pointless to assign a blanket number ahead of time. It should be a bit more dynamic than that. Take in some, whatever number we feel like we can accommodate initially, and then see if we should take more.It's not like we were taking in massive numbers of them anyways, and it's not like we are just letting them in willy nilly. It takes upwards of 2 years for a refugee to get fully vetted and resettled in America. The way Trump and those against refugees talk about it they make it sound like anyone can just get on a plane and come to America without any checks on their background.
I think it was pretty pointless to make any changes to how we were handling refugees, since we haven't had any actual problems with them. Trump's ban is essentially a reaction to nothing.
Take in hundreds of thousands. There's an entire planned city in the desert that never got built. The whole desert thing will make them feel at home and they can build it themselves. California City I believe it is. I
Originally posted by Deadline
By the way didn't Obama have the exact same ban? 😖hifty:
Originally posted by dadudemon
It wasn't a Muslim Ban, either. But I think you know that and you're being facetious. Consevatards will be conservatards. The idiots cheering for the "Muslim ban" are just that: idiots.
case in point.
Originally posted by jaden101
Take in hundreds of thousands. There's an entire planned city in the desert that never got built. The whole desert thing will make them feel at home and they can build it themselves. California City I believe it is. I
Refugees must have got you before you could write your 5th sentence.
I have no problem with immigrants, my parents and myself are immigrants, but we also did it the right way.
My biggest problems from people from the Middle East is there ideologies. Funny part is, they left there home because there ideologies were killing them, yet they come here and try to force there ideologies on us.
What makes it even worse, is that we have people here in the West that applauds them, and actually go out of there ways to help them build on there ideologies.
In Europe, Germany to be exact. Cops were/are afraid to arrest immigrants of sexual conducts and some rapes, because they were scared to be called racist. I mean ****ing seriously!
Originally posted by jaden101
Take in hundreds of thousands. There's an entire planned city in the desert that never got built. The whole desert thing will make them feel at home and they can build it themselves. California City I believe it is. I
Where are we getting the funds to build this city for the refugees? Or I guess I should rephrase: what other projects would we be taking money away from to fund this?
Originally posted by Surtur
Where are we getting the funds to build this city for the refugees? Or I guess I should rephrase: what other projects would we be taking money away from to fund this?
Jaden is correct, it is called "California City."
But it is already occupied and growing. People are developing this city, already. It was abandoned for a long time.
And I think his comment about "already in the desert" is intended to be facetious but some people move to the desert areas of the US because it is "like home" and they like it just fine (they hate cold weather...some, at least).
So, yeah, legit city. But it is being built out already.
So about building a refugee city? That's a great idea. It would not cost very much money (relatively) to start something like this. And, yes, let them build out and control how they do this. Have some professionals on salary there for 10 years as it is developed. See how it develops. 😄 Humans are awesome: I'm sure the city would grow quite well.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Aren't we already providing services and shelter to our homeless?But I do agree we need to be doing much more for our vets.
What you said about the homeless is technically true. We do indeed have shelters, but then they are hardly adequate. Remember, we have VA hospitals too and stuff like that. There are facilities in place for both issues that are there to alleviate the problem, but neither of them is anywhere near sufficient enough.
I see homeless people sleeping on the street all the time, even in winter. Why? Some shelters just fill up fast and have no room for more people, others will take in people, but do not allow anyone to spend the night.
Real Americans need help, a lot of people live paycheck to paycheck..and you'd be shocked at the fact some of these people became homeless all because of just one bad week(or even just one bad day).
We are failing our own citizens in a lot of ways. Health care is one(even Obama care) and the other is our education system, which just is atrocious. We're supposed to be the greatest nation and yet we lack quality healthcare and education.
I sympathize with these refugees, but I find it disheartening to see these issues we face and then to just see our government spending funds on refugees.