Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...it is tough for me to argue against that but since I am a virtue ethicist and not a deontologist, I'd prefer positively contributing members of society be given immediate permanent residency. Millions, all at once. But that would probably get me strung up and beaten by many Oklahomans.
But what about the pro illegal argument that is put forth about how if we got rid of illegal labor the prices of food would skyrocket?
Originally posted by Surtur
But what about the pro illegal argument that is put forth about how if we got rid of illegal labor the prices of food would skyrocket?
There are millions of positive contributing illegals in the US.
But there may be hundreds of thousands to millions of negatively contributing members.
I cannot answer your question because the answer to your question requires data that we do not have.
Originally posted by dadudemon
There are millions of positive contributing illegals in the US.But there may be hundreds of thousands to millions of negatively contributing members.
I cannot answer your question because the answer to your question requires data that we do not have.
Well remember the narrative is that if we had to pay them legal wages the costs of food would skyrocket. Data is rarely given with these claims.
If people find that logic legit, well making all these illegals suddenly legal should have the same effect on prices that getting rid of the illegals from the country would.
Looks like on the Immigration/refugee aka TERRORISTS agenda...Even France is getting on the Trump Side of things.
France gets on the Trump Wagon!
The wall is being kept at 8ft so as not to inconveince the true French people. Cause the Frogs can just hop over it....
I have a question about this "Muslim ban". So I've heard it more than once claimed that we've never had any refugees from any of the countries on the list come here and kill anyone via an act of terror.
My question is, what about the failures? Is that number zero? By "failures" I am asking if we have ever arrested anyone from any of those countries for planning to carry out an act of terror here. In other words, terrorists that were caught before their terroristing got going.
I am asking this because of the recent thing in France where they caught people who were intending to carry out an act of terror before they were actually able to carry out it. Including apparently a 16 yr. old girl.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Last I heard there have been around 60 arrests of persons from said "BAN" countries that were stopped from carrying out their attacks since 9/11.So yes. NO REASON to BAN at all.
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Which means terrorists from these countries have flat out made it here lol. Dozens of them.
Are you two down jerking each other off, yet?
Anyway, I agree with you, haha!
It's funny, the libtards like to call it a Muslim Ban but they are forgetting that refugee status has been put on pause for 120 days from those countries. That means those precious Christians that they think the Conservatards are supposedly sooooo desperate for cannot get a refugee status.
It's as if this wasn't a "Muslim ban" at all...
It's as if this was a ban against 7 countries which are extremely difficult to get proper screening on due to how unstable the governments are and how much terrorism exists in each of those states...
Trump: clearly a racist sexist man-boy.
The travel-ban: not a Muslim-Ban.
Hmm...
Did The Judges Lie: new report finds 72 terrorists came from countries covered by Trump ban
Hopefully this is just fake news. Some in the comments say it is.
It's not like we're on the border with Syria and unfiltered refugees are just pouring across the border. These people are already undergoing rigorous vetting to come here.
If you feel you have more of a right to this beautiful land just because you happened to be born here, perhaps you don't deserve this land
Originally posted by Firefly218
[B]It's not like we're on the border with Syria and unfiltered refugees are just pouring across the border. These people are already undergoing rigorous vetting to come here.
Was this meant as a defense of the government and medias omission of the 70+ terrorists from these countries that have been arrested? Or did you just not see those parts of the discussion here?
Interesting, the following is from part of a State of the Union speech given by Bill Clinton in 1995:
"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public service they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. That’s why our administration has moved aggressively to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan.
We are a nation of immigrants. But we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."
More enrichment from our future doctors. I wonder why American press didn't cover this. lol