Originally posted by relentless1
throwing a huge crate one handed, punching a guy across the room, chokeslamming a guy like he was a feather., exploding through a wall.. basically that entire warehouse fight shits on banes strength feats
Bane busting through solid marble (concrete) is beyond anything Batman did.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
If you want to argue that Spidey jobbed to Cap then fine, I'm in agreement with that but Spider-Man was really trying to hold Cap in place who essentially powered out of it. If Spider-Man is that much stronger than Cap it should've been irrelevant what Cap did with his body surely.Sure you could argue he's had a power creep or you could argue he simply has more feats. He doesn't look noticeably stronger than in WS imo but didn't that film have the same creative team as Civil War working on it? Correct me if im wrong. Power creep is something all major characters go through, Cap isn't unique in that regard. His improved feats still aren't anything above fighting Thor h2h and being able to hurt him, plus what combat skill has Loki really got though besides using some weapons. Cap even came across as having more skill than Loki in their fight however when you're outmatched it's obvious, and that was the case there. Durability alone isn't going to stop you being kicked to the ground or knocked off your feet but super strong beings can resist through sheer force.
Cap was kicking regular men like a dozen metres in some parts yet a jumping spin kick on Loki just about made him take a step back, that's not purely down to durability.
But that all is contradicted by the fact that Spidey casually caught and held WS arm. WS arm is stronger than Cap easily. This implies that Cap's strength is casual to Spidey. So the feat you refer to is either PIS (not usable in forum rules) or it is misunderstood (other factors besides strength was going on).
Originally posted by FrothByte
Except when you actually pay attention to the scene, you can clearly see that it wasn't solid at all.
It was. I have the exact location the scene happened at. I researched the exact material the pillars are made out of and each one's weight. The intentions was for Bane to bust through the pillars outside the Carnegie Mellon Institute. Bane (being an actor) can't do such things in reality. That's why they created fake prop material for him to bust through. We don't judge feats off the actual material but the intended material. Otherwise, everyone's feats are worthless.
Originally posted by h1a8
It was. I have the exact location the scene happened at. I researched the exact material the pillars are made out of and each one's weight. The intentions was for Bane to bust through the pillars outside the Carnegie Mellon Institute. Bane (being an actor) can't do such things in reality. That's why they created fake prop material for him to bust through. We don't judge feats off the actual material but the intended material. Otherwise, everyone's feats are worthless.
Sebastian Stan, the actor for Winter Soldier, also didn't punch and crack real concrete. Yet what we see in the movie is him cracking something that looks like concrete and reacts like concrete.
In comparison, Bane punched a pillar that does not look or react like solid concrete or marble, which implies that it was never meant to be portrayed as solid concrete or marble.
Originally posted by FrothByteWe don't judge material by going by the way things look but the intention of their makeup. The feat happened at a REAL LANDMARK which I gave. The pillars are known to be made of limestone weighing at 62 tons each. Bane was shown to punch and bust one of these pillars. The intentions are clear. The lack of skill of special effects doesn't change that fact. Otherwise, I can discredit ANY feat just because it didn't look real enough and troll and ignore the common sense intentions.
Sebastian Stan, the actor for Winter Soldier, also didn't punch and crack real concrete. Yet what we see in the movie is him cracking something that looks like concrete and reacts like concrete.In comparison, Bane punched a pillar that does not look or react like solid concrete or marble, which implies that it was never meant to be portrayed as solid concrete or marble.
Originally posted by h1a8
We don't judge material by going by the way things look but the intention of their makeup. The feat happened at a REAL LANDMARK which I gave. The pillars are known to be made of limestone weighing at 62 tons each. Bane was shown to punch and bust one of these pillars. The intentions are clear. The lack of skill of special effects doesn't change that fact. Otherwise, I can discredit ANY feat just because it didn't look real enough and troll and ignore the common sense intentions.
Gotham city doesn't exist, so what real landmark are you talking about?