How the hell can Superman beat Silver Surfer?

Started by darthgoober22 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure......

If it were otherwise you'd simply produce the quote. Hell if it were otherwise Ra and I wouldn't have ended things on a positive note.

But hey, if you feel the need to get in the last word even if it's devoid of any thing substantial go right ahead and say something like "sure" again, I'll let you have.

Originally posted by darthgoober
abhi seemed to be laughing at and trying to disprove the notion of PC Kryps being scaled back in power which does contradict your acknowledgement. I'm not trying to pin down just how much they'd been scaled back, I'm simply saying that the accomplishments of the characters matters more than the PC Kryptonian title.

They were scaled down in space cheese by more realistic writing. And more variable showings. Bronze Age Supes still tanked the Savage Hulks geometrically increasing strength though.

Pre Zero Hour Daxamites=Pre Crisis Kryptonians.

Not canon.

Originally posted by darthgoober
If it were otherwise you'd simply produce the quote. Hell if it were otherwise Ra and I wouldn't have ended things on a positive note.

But hey, if you feel the need to get in the last word even if it's devoid of any thing substantial go right ahead and say something like "sure" again, I'll let you have.


😂

You get riled up on the tiniest things.

😆

So anymore surfer fanboys around? I'm pretty bored thrashing the usual ones again.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So anymore surfer fanboys around? I'm pretty bored thrashing the usual ones again.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So anymore surfer fanboys around? I'm pretty bored thrashing the usual ones again.

There is an extra stock on CV, I'm afraid. XD

this thread was awesome.... lol and abhi, phil and smurph, thanks much for the bday wishes. mucho appreciated.

I deliberately didn't wish you a happy birthday.

Originally posted by leonidas
this thread was awesome.... lol and abhi, phil and smurph, thanks much for the bday wishes. mucho appreciated.

Others wished you birthday wishes in the other thread.

You just hated us so much you didn't bother to see them.

All those years, leo.

F*ck you, leo.

YouTube video

Happy Birthday again. I still love, you old goat 👆

awww, you guys...... you're gonna make me cry...

I hope you'll be still here with us in 2117.

We'll get some fancy healing factors or shit.

All the best, leo. All the best.

Speaking of weak blasts, Surfer's blasts looked weaker than even Gladiator's HV.

Gladiator blasts a hole in the same hulk who wades through Surfer's blasts.

Yep and Glads was getting weaker by an unknown radiation.

So even a weakened Gladiators hv >>> Silver Surfers blast.

The hulk that Glads fought was weakened. He wasn't as weak when he fought Surfer.

Originally posted by carver9
The hulk that Glads fought was weakened. He wasn't as weak when he fought Surfer.

Lolwut?

It depends, if that's Comicvine Surfer he solos all fiction.

The Silver Surfer, on the other hand, can win or lose against Superman depending on the settings of the fight.

If the fight comes mostly with ranged attacks, it's possible that Surfer wins more often than not.

If the fight end in an hand-to-hand situation it could end in Superman's favour because it's the main way Clark's uses to fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but don't forget, by the time COIE happened, in general pre crisis Kryptonians had already lost a lot of their bluster. DC had been scailing back Supes powers for a while even before they rebooted the universe. That's not to say that they weren't still impressive, just that they weren't near the hight of their power. I mean don't forget, Post Crisis Powergirl was technically a Pre Crisis Kryptonian.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's golden age Supes, which means an alternate universe version of the character. My point is that just a character is a "PC Kryptonian" it doesn't mean that they should automatically be considered equal to silver aged Supes at the height of his power. even Pre Crisis characters function on a broad range. Post Crisis Powergirl and Superboy Prime are both Pre Crisis Kryptonians after all.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's my point. People have a tendency to act like any showing that has a Pre Crisis Kryptonian on the other side is automatically uber in nature. I've simply been pointing out that by the time the Crisis rolled around such was not the case. That doesn't mean the showings aren't impressive, they're just not automatically staggering in nature. Mention the words "Pre Crisis Kryptonian" and a lot of people's minds immediately go to Silver Age Supes's best portrayals without acknowledging that fact.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Pocketverse=Alternate universe=not directly comparible.

You explicitly cite Power Girl as "technically still a Pre-CRISIS Kryptonian" then when Abhi posts Kal-L, you state alternate universe, and not applicable, reply to a post pointing-out Power Girl was from the same universe as Kal-L, then respond to Pocketverse as "aternate universe=not directly comparable." Your argument that Power Girl is "technically a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian" is invalid by your dismissal of Kal-L.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Speaking of weak blasts, Surfer's blasts looked weaker than even Gladiator's HV.

Gladiator blasts a hole in the same hulk who wades through Surfer's blasts.

Given that surfer tries to take him down in the most non-lethal way possible, who's to say how potent that blast was? Gladiator was fighting for his life