How the hell can Superman beat Silver Surfer?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Never lied at all. You are projecting. I was referencing a specific fight where alone he faces two Galactus level beings.

And got almost killed. But you said Tenebrous and Aegis never koed Surfer.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
[B]For the most part, especially since he is never KOed from the assault from Tenebrous and Aegis. Superman would be dead.
Surfer soon after endure Crunch energy.

And LOL at Bruce and Jane with a bit of armor being as durable as Superman.

What does DnA have to do with two issues written by Keith Giffen?

Because they are the main influence on Galactus portrayal.

Also Giffen had Galactus take months to recover from two planets colliding and even then Fallen One being powerful enough to kill him after all that recovery.

His Galactus is shit level.

Nah.

Great retort right there.

Why are you referencing DnA? [/B]

Because I can? Only marvel zombies are impressed by puny Galactus.

Even a Guardian of universe can shitstomp the likes of him in actual comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]And got almost killed. But you said Tenebrous and Aegis never koed Surfer.

I said that Surfer is never KOed from the assault by Tenebrous and Aegis. Tenebrous doesn't assault Surfer in the first confrontation. I was specifically referencing the second one.

Because they are the main influence on Galactus portrayal.

That was all Giffen. DnA became the influence after Giffen.

Also Giffen had Galactus take months to recover from two planets colliding and even then Fallen One being powerful enough to kill him after all that recovery.

Galactus is drained by The Hunger.

His Galactus is shit level.]

Speak for yourself.

Because I can? Only marvel zombies are impressed by puny Galactus.]

Yes, you most definitely can lie.

Even a Guardian of universe can shitstomp the likes of him in actual comics.

Only DC Druids are impressed by Guardians.

Do continue to cry more LOL!

Originally posted by TheHulkster
I said that Surfer is never KOed from the assault by Tenebrous and Aegis. Tenebrous doesn't assault Surfer in the first confrontation. I was specifically referencing the second one.

So Aegis >>>>Tenebrous and Aegis, huh?

That was all Giffen. DnA became the influence after Giffen.

Nope, they were all collaborative. Annihilation as itself was the brainchild of DnA.

Galactus is drained by The Hunger.

Thanos stated that even at full power Galactus had minimal chances of survival.

What has Giffen's Galactus done that's remotely impressive?

Speak for yourself.

Yes, you most definitely can lie.

Great retorts as usual.

Only DC Druids are impressed by Guardians.

And Galactus too. Seeing how got treated as Krona's *****.

Do continue to cry more LOL!

Your tears are amusing.

Son. Did you even read the story? Those gnomes are mystically powered up to uber Cosmic proportions. Try again LOL!

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
Son. Did you even read the story? Those gnomes are mystically powered up to uber Cosmic proportions. Try again LOL!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/5olPr0ntBMwA1rzq_lSzmOh5betH3_--hor5dC99OgVPS5vTGQqmyLF8B7V93yi9c7umzo_Gw5Uj=s0

Even Valkyrie survived an attack from them and both Namor and Hulk took several attacks from them.

Relative power levels kiddo.

What are you talking about boy? Namor does nothing. Black night is KOed by two but nowhere is it stated that two are needed. Everyone is helpless against Cosmic level uber powered beings. You reached deep into the nether region to come out empty handed. Back to crying.

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And why are you referencing a crossover regarding Galactus? Isn't that not allowed? Aren't you just desperate LOL!

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What are you talking about boy?

Hush now child. You are just ranting at this point.

Namor does nothing.

Except taking the attack from the gnome while weaker than usual.

Black night is KOed by two but nowhere is it stated that two are needed. Everyone is helpless against Cosmic level uber powered beings. You reached deep into the nether region to come out empty handed.

Except no? There was no cosmic level uber beings. Those were some gnomes created by a magic spell.

Back to crying.

😂

Your desperation knows no bounds.

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Broken link huh?

And why are you referencing a crossover regarding Galactus? Isn't that not allowed? Aren't you just desperate LOL!

So you are simply going to pretend that did not happen? Even Galactus's handbook entry says so and Grandmaster's too.

http://i.imgur.com/1dzDdWK.jpg

Son, the board says no crossovers. Either way, you reference a being empowered enormously beyond normal by, unlike New 52 Anti-Monitor, actually absorbing numerous universes. That's like saying that normal humans are above Galactus because Owen Reese is capable of blinking him out of existence.

And Keith Griffin is the architect of Annihilation. He wrote the prelude, the main book and the Silver Surfer related minis. He also wrote the Drax mini where Drax is changed and the last 6 issues of Thanos; all considered preludes to the event.

DnA wrote the Nova mini.

Quote my earlier post and copy and paste the link to your address bar to see Namor being crushed before the water melts the gnome. Then you can resume crying and looking for Surfer being punched out by an elite top tier during combat.

Wasn't that a similar argument to yours?

Equating normal Apokoliptian grunts with Luthortech?

I was also weighing Henson's statement with regard to the armor. Krona's power level at that time compared to a normal Guardian is indisputably extreme.

So you equate all Apokoliptian tech?

Is Tony Stark emblematic of all Marvel Earth? A standard army grunt is equal to Bleeding Edge, for example? Extremis?

Wouldn't a standard army grunt personally outfitted with Stark's armor be a better example? You kind of ran right past Henson's statement of near perfect technology and the belief of the soldiers that the armor is indestructible. But even beyond that, you proceed from a false premise.

I was responding to an assertion that the survival is based on the fact that he is wearing Apokoliptian armor. I posted an example of apokoliptian armor and armor that is raved on by multiple individuals.

Is there more to it than that? Then present it. Doing so seems better than some odd sensitivity. "What's your point? Don't be coy?"

The fact that it's Luthortech, designed by himself to protect his own body.

PLUS it has a Motherbox, housed in his left gauntlet.

So not just standard Apokoliptian tech. Just like a standard Apokoliptian grunts doesn't run around in armour designed by one of the premier geniuses of DC,so too does a standard army grunt not run around in Stark tech.

So equating all Apokoliptian armour as the same (even though, yes, it IS of a high standard as per Henshaws statement) is like equating all Earth armour as the same.

Moreover, you're using Doomsday as a gauge, perhaps to show how weak it is?

But it's Doomsday.

MOREOVER, you're using pre 52 scans.

If I read your post wrong, then I apologise. But hence my statement: what's the point of showing your scan? If it's too showcase how weak it is, then for the reasons posted above, you can't really argue that.

But I may have read your post wrong. As I said, I apologise if that is the case.

FURTHERMORE, it's Batman, lol. He tanks ridiculous things, and does ridiculous things. Using him as a guide is a road to ruin

What was the third person wearing? The lady?

Also, superhero Earth's tend to mix real world with sci-fi and it's often questionable as to why Reed Richards or Stark Tech is not used routinely. Other worlds are not like that, so the difference between what you call a "grunt" on Apokolips with regard to tech is not the same as a U.S. military grunt compared to Stark.

You would be better comparing Black Panther's classic suit to those worn by the Hatut Zeraze.

And even if the other two are wearing the most advanced armor on Earth and Apokolips, the feat is still nearly shared by the two armors. Bat factor or not.

So you want to compare elite Wakandan units to Tchalla?

Even though no indication was made that the Apokoliptian soldiers were elite?

Moreover, you're comparing Tchalla, a rather benevolent king, who won't hesitate to devote the best equipment and armour Wakandan money can buy, to the relationship between Darkseid, who frequently sacrifices legions of his soldiers, and Luthor, one of THE most self serving bastards out there, who won't hesitate on bankrupting entire nations if it meant protecting himself?

Ok.

Furthermore, Bat factor. I've posted the showing of him and WW. Does that mean a bloodlusted GoW WW is only street level? Even when sucker punching an injured half naked Bruce?

AND then, you have to consider the Doomsday factor, PLUS the fact you're using pre 52 scans........

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you want to compare elite Wakandan units to Tchalla?

Even though no indication was made that the Apokoliptian soldiers were elite?

Darkseid specifically refers to them as his Elite Guard in the scene below and speaks of them as if his last line of defense (Sorry that I could not find a working link in English but you can see "Guarda De Elite"😉. That's the page before my previous scan that you reference.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-E8YAexbAVLA/UvMZretLfdI/AAAAAAAA8jg/qP5BNMhUKnU/s1600/23.jpg

I'm not sure why you keep referencing pe-New 52. We now post-rebirth which, according to many, re-establishes a good portion of pre-New 52 history and eliminates much of New-52 history.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We now post-rebirth which, according to many, re-establishes a good portion of pre-New 52 history and eliminates much of New-52 history.

Also, quit saying Henson, his name is Henshaw.

And decent set of guard armor =/= Doomsday =/= the suit Luthor built.
gtfo with that nonsense.

Henson.