Originally posted by abhilegend
Except when it's the only thing mentioned as a product.Surfer didn't "generate" an energy blast, he "generated" a black hole.
If you want, I can make it even simpler smurphy.
Except that's just contradictory. But at least you amended that the creation of the black hole was main goal.
It's a start.
Originally posted by Ambient
Nothing imaginary about it bru, I posted a scan about it a while back and it was in the Annihilation story and also in Morgs annihilation bio.
A bio doesn't retcon what's on panel. WOL Morg wouldn't struggle against Terrax twice.
Originally posted by darthgoober
No they always matter to some degree, just like character comparisons. I freely acknowledge that basically everything in comics has to be taken with a grain of salt, but that's far different than suggesting that either category isn't worth considering.
Gotcha.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=641900&pagenumber=1#post16177954
Got it. Seems to be the complete scene, unless someone wants to throw in some additional context.
This is clearly, and I mean clearly, the intended effect Surfer was going for.
I think the language confusion people are experiencing is the difference between "side effect" and "consequence".
To be clear, this is not a "side effect", which is by definition a secondary effect which is further implied to be negative. Secondary being not primary, and primary being the intended effect.
This is a "consequence", which is defined by being the result of something. A consequence is often thought of as carrying a negative connotation, such as "if you commit a crime, there will be legal consequences", but a consequence is not limited by its definition to being negative. A consequence of drinking milk may be stronger bones. A consequence of doing extra work may be a promotion. A consequence of a large energy discharge may be a black hole (in Marvel anyways, fuck physics).
But anyways, fuck all y'all, getting caught up in semantics 😬
Originally posted by PhilosophíaA massive energy discharge, obviously. Which is why Thanos said that the black hole was "brought about by Surfer's blast" or w/e
Why is it a side-effect, when the intent of my action is specifically for that effect?Tell me, smurphy, what is the primary effect of Silver Surfer's blast, so that the side-effect is the black hole?
How would he do it in a non-roundabout way?
Originally posted by abhilegendHahaha what?
Surfer didn't "generate" an energy blast
Of course he did.
Originally posted by CogitoNah, bro, you're wrong.
Got it. Seems to be the complete scene, unless someone wants to throw in some additional context.This is clearly, and I mean [b]clearly
, the intended effect Surfer was going for.I think the language confusion people are experiencing is the difference between "side effect" and "consequence".
To be clear, this is not a "side effect", which is by definition a secondary effect which is further implied to be negative. Secondary being not primary, and primary being the intended effect.
This is a "consequence", which is defined by being the result of something. A consequence is often thought of as carrying a negative connotation, such as "if you commit a crime, there will be legal consequences", but a consequence is not limited by its definition to being negative. A consequence of drinking milk may be stronger bones. A consequence of doing extra work may be a promotion. A consequence of a large energy discharge may be a black hole (in Marvel anyways, fuck physics).
But anyways, fuck all y'all, getting caught up in semantics 😬 [/B]
Goober and Smurph am zmart.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So it doesn't matters when it suits you.Gotcha.
Originally posted by darthgoober
lol Relatively little of what's discussed on the forum is definitive, it always boils down to a subject interpretation of things. That's why this is a debate forum rather than a "everybody chime in and say the exact same thing" forum. There are things that I ignore in accordance with my interpretation of the rules of the forum and there are things I recognize for the same reason.
Gotcha.