How the hell can Superman beat Silver Surfer?

Started by darthgoober22 pages

Originally posted by abhilegend
Which didn't happen. We see debris sucked in and not flying outwards like other explosion he caused.

Nonsense.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except he didn't. That's what the recap says.

Don't tell me you didn't read that . Do I need to put some reading glasses there?

Do you know what it means to generate something?

Originally posted by Cogito
A massive energy discharge is an action (a verb), and not an effect (a noun) 👆
Uh, no, not necessarily.

You can have electrical discharge, bodily discharge, etc. Edit: Which, to specify, are nouns.

In this sense, 'discharge' is synonymous with 'blast' 👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer wanted to create and explosion which would result in a black hole being formed.
So the purpose of his energy discharge was to create a blackhole?

Originally posted by abhilegend
So it matters for Surfer and not for Superman?

Gotcha.


Strawman, that's not what I'm suggesting by any stretch of the imagination.

Originally posted by Philosophía
So the purpose of his energy discharge was to create a blackhole?

It was the intended end result, yes.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol so bringing up a feat is trolling?

It's a fair feat to bring up, but Superman has survived black holes before and held one in his hands, so it's not the most impressive against this opponent.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It was the intended end result, yes.
If the purpose of the blast was solely to create a black hole, why is it a side effect?

Originally posted by Philosophía
If the purpose of the blast was solely to create a black hole, why is it a side effect?

It's a side effect of a blast that big. When people use "side effect" they're not commenting on Surfer's intent, they're commenting on the result of a blast that large.

Originally posted by Cogito
It's a fair feat to bring up, but Superman has survived black holes before and held one in his hands, so it's not the most impressive against this opponent.

True, but this was in response to Surfer supposedly having "weak" blasts.

Originally posted by Smurph
Do you know what it means to generate something?

Uh, no, not necessarily.

You can have electrical discharge, bodily discharge, etc. Edit: Which, to specify, are nouns.

In this sense, 'discharge' is synonymous with 'blast' 👆


Yes.

Do you?

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's a side effect of a blast that big. When people use "side effect" they're not commenting on Surfer's intent, they're commenting on the result of a blast that large.
If the intended and sole outcome of a blast that large is a black hole, why call it a side effect, and not a direct effect of Surfer's intentions when creating a 'blast that big' [it's in '', because it's retarded, but that's another part of the discussion]

Originally posted by Philosophía
So the primary effect of the massive energy discharge is what, if the side effect is the black hole?
I know it's not your fault but it's frustrating that I can't easily quote you when I quote other people. Argh.

Anyways, he intended to cause an explosion that would bring about a blackhole as a consequence.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Nonsense.

😂

Point out where that big explosion was wise guy?

http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/Philosophia/media/Annihilation%20-%20Silver%20Surfer%20001-015_zpsniymprhk.jpg.html

The debris are sucked in not flying outwards.

Originally posted by Smurph
I know it's not your fault but it's frustrating that I can't easily quote you when I quote other people. Argh.

Anyways, he intended to cause an explosion that would bring about a blackhole as a consequence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Point out where that big explosion was wise guy?

http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/Philosophia/media/Annihilation%20-%20Silver%20Surfer%20001-015_zpsniymprhk.jpg.html

The debris are sucked in not flying outwards.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes.

Do you?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/generated

1. to bring into existence; cause to be; produce

Did Surfer generate an energy discharge, Abhi?

Originally posted by Smurph
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/generated

Did Surfer generate an energy discharge, Abhi?


😂

Did he now? Why wasn't it mentioned on the recap?

They should have just mentioned he 'generated' a big explosion.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If the intended and sole outcome of a blast that large is a black hole, why call it a side effect, and not a direct effect of Surfer's intentions when creating a 'blast that big' [it's in '', because it's retarded, but that's another part of the discussion]

Because no one wants to type that damn much every time they bring up the feat when there's nothing expressly wrong with using "side effect"(as Smurph pointed out, intent is never mentioned in the definition) and people understand what's being said when the term is used.

Originally posted by Smurph
Anyways, he intended to cause an explosion that would bring about a blackhole as a consequence.
So when he discharged the blast, the purpose was to create a black hole. If the effect of his action was a black hole [which you call side-effect], what was the primary effect?

I'd also like you to expand on how this is a 'roundabout way', how do you define direct way, and why the 'roundabout way' is more impressive. All of which you've dodge, by the way.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Point out where that big explosion was wise guy?

http://s1074.photobucket.com/user/Philosophia/media/Annihilation%20-%20Silver%20Surfer%20001-015_zpsniymprhk.jpg.html

The debris are sucked in not flying outwards.


Definately looks to be flying outwards to me. And any ambiguity of the artwork should be stiffled by the fact that it's an energy "discharge"

Originally posted by darthgoober
Because no one wants to type that damn much every time they bring up the feat when there's nothing expressly wrong with using "side effect"(as Smurph pointed out, intent is never mentioned in the definition) and people understand what's being said when the term is used.
Intent is never mentioned in the definition? Goober, goober, why are you lying like this?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/side--effect
quote:
any effect of a drug, chemical, or other medicine that is in addition to its intended effect

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dic...y/side%20effect
quote:
: a result of an action that is not expected or intended

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ish/side-effect
quote:
an unpleasant effect of a drug that happens in addition to the main effect

The end-result that Surfer wanted was to have a black hole. His energy discharge was to reach that purpose. Thus the main effect of his action was the black hole. It was expected and it was intended - by definition it's not a side-effect. There is no 'side effect'.