Classic Living Tribunal vs Ultimate Ultimates

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Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except he got beaten by Kubik in his own universe. So he isn't omnipotent.

What are you even talking about now?

Huh? Korvac didn't even try to break the seal and he had already sealed off his universe from any alternate reality. It was LT who ran away.

He is Omnipresent. He sealed Korvacs universe. No matter how powerful Korvac gets he wont be able to get out of his Universe. Just like the Beyonder wont be of any harm to the other Universes.

While beings like Korvac and the Beyonder are omnipotent at a Universal level the LT is omnipotent at a Multiversal level. Its logic Abhilegend

The only times the LT has really lost is vs the Beyonders and Chaos And Order. And those time i have already explained why.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
He is Omnipresent. He sealed Korvacs universe. No matter how powerful Korvac gets he wont be able to get out of his Universe. Just like the Beyonder wont be of any harm to the other Universes.

Except Korvac never tried to break the seal.

Beyonder obviously went out of his universe and harmed other universes.

While beings like Korvac and the Beyonder are omnipotent at a Universal level the LT is omnipotent at a Multiversal level. Its logic Abhilegend

Neither of these beings are omnipotent on any scale.

The only times the LT has really lost is vs the Beyonders and Chaos And Order. And those time i have already explained why.

He was defeated by an alternate Reed Richards as well.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by abhilegend
Except Korvac never tried to break the seal.

Beyonder obviously went out of his universe and harmed other universes.

Neither of these beings are omnipotent on any scale.

He was defeated by an alternate Reed Richards as well.

Even if he would he couldnt. And we are jumping into What-Ifs now.

Yeah. Then LT sealed him.

LT is Omnipotent at a multiversal scale when casting Judgement. He is neigh Omnipotent cause there are certain times when there is judgement and his powers are limitted by this.

You said so...alternate.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Even if he would he couldnt. And we are jumping into What-Ifs now.

What ifs are canon to classic LT.

Yeah. Then LT sealed him.

Yet Beyonder still went out of his universe.

LT is Omnipotent at a multiversal scale when casting Judgement. He is neigh Omnipotent cause there are certain times when there is judgement and his powers are limitted by this.

There is no such distinction in the comics. You're just making it up.

You said so...alternate.

There was no alternate LT until Starlin retconned it. It's all canon to him as there was only one LT in multiverse.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by abhilegend
What ifs are canon to classic LT.

Yet Beyonder still went out of his universe.

There is no such distinction in the comics. You're just making it up.

There was no alternate LT until Starlin retconned it. It's all canon to him as there was only one LT in multiverse.

When i said What If i was meaning speculations.

The is not but it is implied. You dont just read the comic. You analyze it.

LT still beats Joker and is still above Beyonder and Korvac. As he has showned to be. He sealed his universes. He won the trial. No being jas avoided his judgement. Not until now.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

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abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When i said What If i was meaning speculations.

The is not but it is implied. You dont just read the comic. You analyze it.

LT still beats Joker and is still above Beyonder and Korvac. As he has showned to be. He sealed his universes. He won the trial. No being jas avoided his judgement. Not until now.


😂

Repeating yourself wouldn't make you right.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Repeating yourself wouldn't make you right.

Nor will you! HAHA. lol.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Nor will you! HAHA. lol.

But I'm right. Always right.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by abhilegend
But I'm right. Always right.
False.

Mr Master Junior Member

Classic LT for the stomp! lol at the trolling still going strong. Damn, took a break only to return and see the same ol' trollish crusade. Clueless lowballing per usual. And yes LT › Korvac and post-retcon Beyonder. Classic Beyonder is the most powerful character ever in Marvel. Unless you throw Byrne's She Hulk into the mix, who‘s › TOAA. (well, "in-universe atleast"😉 cause it's what the essence (actual writer/artist) of TOAA wants after all. I‘ve never enjoyed categorizing TOAA as just another would- be "God" of everything. TOAA is above even that concept.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Mr Master
I‘ve never enjoyed categorizing TOAA as just another would- be "God" of everything. TOAA is above even that concept.

He really isn't. At the very least not Jim Starlin's portrayal.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend

Here is Kobik beating and crushing Beyonder in his own universe.

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Beyonder was a half Cube Being in that fight, while Kubik was whole. When Beyonder became whole, he participated in a Trans-Multiversal feat, and his death would‘ve wrecked the Multiverse. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the LT comedy, LT never exercised his power directly on Korvac. LT used a puny star as a weapon, LOL, instead of his atleast absolute Universal power. LT was a victim of CIS to the extreme in that story. Korvac just absorbed Celestials and CosmicS but yea, lets use a phuckin single sun to stop em? If one cant see the PIS in this, one should give up debating.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

And nobody gives a shit to why Beyonder was half a cosmic cube or why he was amped and still lost to Molecule Man.

You're still crying over LT running away like a ***** from Korvac? Get used to it, it's his go to tactic.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
And nobody gives a shit to why Beyonder was half a cosmic cube or why he was amped and still lost to Molecule Man.
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The non trolls who wonder why Beyonder lost to Kubik do though. Beyonder was never "amped" btw, he was simply at full power when he lost to Owen who was simply above Beyonder‘s omnipotence. Yea, Owen, bad ass then and now entire infinitieS of creation are kept in his shoe box.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Mr Master
The non trolls who wonder why Beyonder lost to Kubik do though. Beyonder was never "amped" btw, he was simply at full power when he lost to Owen who was simply above Beyonder‘s omnipotence. Yea, Owen, bad ass then and now entire infinitieS of creation are kept in his shoe box.

This troll thinks Beyonder merging with another cube being isn't an amp.

This isn't about molecule man though. It's about bitchy tribunal.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
This troll thinks Beyonder merging with another cube being isn't an amp.

This isn't about molecule man though. It's about bitchy tribunal.

ILowballing cluelessly per usual. Ive always admired your consistency. But in reality, Beyonder was NOT whole, he needed Owen‘s energies to become complete. To become a full cube being. Trolling is debating Beyonder without knowing jack shit about the character. Tribunal? Classic Tribunal stomps this team, and nearly any other or individual produced by Marvel.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Mr Master
ILowballing cluelessly per usual. Ive always admired your consistency. But in reality, Beyonder was NOT whole, he needed Owen‘s energies to become complete. To become a full cube being. Trolling is debating Beyonder without knowing jack shit about the character. Tribunal? Classic Tribunal stomps this team, and nearly any other or individual produced by Marvel.

Beyonder by his own was half cube being. Him merging with another is considered an amp for him.

The same tribunal who ran away like a ***** from Korvac?

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
Beyonder by his own was half cube being. Him merging with another is considered an amp for him.

The same tribunal who ran away like a ***** from Korvac?

Beyonder on his own was full cube being, Beyonder didnt merge with "another" cube being, Beyonder was taking back his own power which Owen possessed. ........................Wait, don‘t tell me you were unaware Owen‘s power was literally a portion of Beyonder‘s energies, the portion Beyonder needed BACK in order to become whole. In the first retcon, When Beyonder was born, a portion of his energy/power escaped the universe he embodied/became and went into Owen making him the Molecule Man. So this is not an amp, since Beyonder was simply taking back what was his, in fact, he was literally incomplete with out that portion. --------- Tribunal can encase entire Univrses but attacked a being absorbing Celestials and Cosmics with a single star.😐 nuff said on the lowballing CIS/PIS tip.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

That was before the retcon. After retcon both Beyonder and Molecule Man were separate cube beings.

Don't tell me you haven't actually read it.

When did Tribunal erase a single universe? Scans?