Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Granted
2. Not really.
3. Denied.The Dark Side is known for clouding the Light Side.
It is expected of any Sith Lord to be able to hide himself from the Jedi's
In fact, Sith's were believed to be extinct by the Jedi's for a millenium.
So isn't like Sidious is the only Sith to be able to hide himself.
Yoda is more powerful because:
1. He is faster and better skilled with the Light Saber.
2. His knowledge over the Force surpasses Sidious.
3. He defeated Sidious in the long term (He believed in Luke and trained him to defeat the Empire).
1.His speed is partly due to his size and what type of animal creature he is, not his strength in the force. He is equally skilled with the Light Saber as Sidious (stalemate for a long fight).
2. I disagree. Sidious can disguise himself as a force user and can see the future with greater detail than Yoda ever did.
3. Yoda did not defeat Sidious in any sense of the word. Especially in terms of using the force.
You are highly irrational here.
Originally posted by h1a8
1.His speed is partly due to his size and what type of animal creature he is, not his strength in the force. He is equally skilled with the Light Saber as Sidious (stalemate for a long fight).2. I disagree. Sidious can disguise himself as a force user and can see the future with greater detail than Yoda ever did.
3. Yoda did not defeat Sidious in any sense of the word. Especially in terms of using the force.
You are highly irrational here.
1. There have been other Yoda types as Jedi before. Yet Yoda is still #1 Jedi.
So isnt only because of his alien type.
2.So why did he lose in the end then?
3. Nor did Sidious. Considering Sidious had the overall advantage throughout the battle it's obvious Yoda is better.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderFalse, since we see Snoke utterly dominate Rey with the force. Luke wasn't powerful enough to bulldoze her. That is an example. Serkis confirms the obvious. I've already explained how feats don't determine superiority in the same universe it's how they stack up against each other.
So you then are basing Snoke as #1 on speculation.Sorry but feats are better than speculation.
Originally posted by relentless1No, you are wrong. We see Ben already get the better of Luke. Rey wasn't trying to hurt him either. She pulled back but it's clear her power scared him. He even says so, kid. Quit ignoring the obvious and what words he uses or how these characters relate to each other.
you never take context into consideration when you post your wild claims do you? Its very clear that Luke was playing with Rey and was surprised by her leap in aggression by grabbing the lightsaber... at no point in that "fight" was Luke in any danger... try again bud, with context this time
Originally posted by quanchi112
False, since we see Snoke utterly dominate Rey with the force. Luke wasn't powerful enough to bulldoze her. That is an example. Serkis confirms the obvious. I've already explained how feats don't determine superiority in the same universe it's how they stack up against each other.
And just because you see her dominating Rey (Who is a force noob basically) he suddenly rises above Yoda and Sidious?
That is speculation my friend.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderThis is speculative either way since we won't ever see Snoke vs. Yoda. We have never seen the utter and total domination of someone like Rey who was Kylo's equal in the force. Snoke explains her power rose to meet Kylo's so her experience is a moot point.
And just because you see her dominating Rey (Who is a force noob basically) he suddenly rises above Yoda and Sidious?That is speculation my friend.
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is speculative either way since we won't ever see Snoke vs. Yoda. We have never seen the utter and total domination of someone like Rey who was Kylo's equal in the force. Snoke explains her power rose to meet Kylo's so her experience is a moot point.
No but based on feats and overall SW Knowledge you can draw a rational conclusion.
Yet she is unexperienced and non trained in the forced. So again, that feat doesnt back up your claim.
We've not seen Noob Rey match Kylo in a fair duel or in Force mastery.
Only her raw power is comparable. But she lacks skill and mastery.
IOW, just because Snoke can ragdoll Rey, doesn't mean he can also ragdoll Kylo. Though Snoke's TK is no doubt superior, and he obviously was overall superior to Kylo as of TFA and TLJ.
Originally posted by Josh_AlexanderShe has force power equal to Kylo the guy who woke up from a nap to defeat experienced Luke holding a lightsaber. We see Kylo can't overpower her and he defeated Luke prior to cutting himself off for the force.
No but based on feats and overall SW Knowledge you can draw a rational conclusion.Yet she is unexperienced and non trained in the forced. So again, that feat doesnt back up your claim.
Your argument just died.
She also put Luke on his ass with her skill.
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