Ozymandias vs. Black Panther

The Russos explicitly said in an interview that one of the ways they chose to show that T'Challa was enhanced was being able to go toe-to-toe with Winter Soldier, even without his armour. So, any claims where H1 tries to imply that the movie physics "protected" Black Panther is directly contradicted by what we're told by the actual directors of the film.

Now, I know interviews don't count on their own, but it's still infinitely more credible than H1's fan-fiction. Not to mention, if anyone, knowing what the Russos said, still persists to spin a narrative that contradicts it, purely based on a technically in Imp's one ruling, it is clear they are nothing but a troll.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Did Watchmen protect it's human stars from superhuman hits or did Ozy just not have superstrength?

Originally posted by FrothByte
In other words, you only want to apply this rule to Bucky but not on Ozy.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The Russos explicitly said in an interview that one of the ways they chose to show that T'Challa was enhanced was being able to go toe-to-toe with Winter Soldier, even without his armour. So, any claims where H1 tries to imply that the movie physics "protected" Black Panther is directly contradicted by what we're told by the actual directors of the film.

Now, I know interviews don't count on their own, but it's still infinitely more credible than H1's fan-fiction. Not to mention, if anyone, knowing what the Russos said, still persists to spin a narrative that contradicts it, purely based on a technically in Imp's one ruling, it is clear they are nothing but a troll.

Then how do you explain Tony not having a broken face or being koed by the elbow? Movie physics or lack of power from the elbow? It’s either one or the other.

Originally posted by h1a8
They protected human stars from superhuman hits. This is because of the distance they flew.

That means you've falsely been using surviving Ozy's hits as durability feats.

Are you going to stop doing so from now on?

Originally posted by h1a8
I applied it to Ozy.

No you didn't.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No you didn't.

I did. As long as TChalla feat against the metal arm is due to human star physics (not great durability) then I’ll still apply it to Ozy. So it’s with conditions.

^ Human star physics is a term you invented that is a red herring and has no bearing here.

Originally posted by h1a8
I did. As long as TChalla feat against the metal arm is due to human star physics (not great durability) then I’ll still apply it to Ozy. So it’s with conditions.

Ozy catching that bullet was due to movie star physics, thus he doesn't actually have enhanced perceptions/reactions.

Originally posted by h1a8
Then how do you explain Tony not having a broken face or being koed by the elbow? Movie physics or lack of power from the elbow? It’s either one or the other.

How do you explain Rosch or Comedian's faces not being broken from multiple direct punches from Ozy?

Originally posted by FrothByte
^ Human star physics is a term you invented that is a red herring and has no bearing here.

The term yes, but the concept no.

Remember it has to go both ways. If Roschach doesn’t get his durability feat then neither does TChalla.

Originally posted by FrothByte
How do you explain Rosch or Comedian's faces not being broken from multiple direct punches from Ozy?

I asked you first.

Originally posted by h1a8
The term yes, but the concept no.

Remember it has to go both ways. If Roschach doesn’t get his durability feat then neither does TChalla.

So in all the threads where you've used them taking hits from Ozy as proof of their durability, that was just you trolling?

Originally posted by h1a8
I asked you first.

Ah see there? You don't have an answer do you? You're going to try and duck around me now because you know I caught you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So in all the threads where you've used them taking hits from Ozy as proof of their durability, that was just you trolling?

This.

H1 has been giving guys like Rorschach those kinds of durability feats in threads, based on things like the Ozy head kick. And he never had any kind of issue with doing so. It's just now that it's Bucky and T'Challa that he is coming up with this BS. Which just, once again, proves what a biased troll he is. He was happy to apply one set of standards, over and over, as long as it suited his argument at the time. Now that it doesn't suit him, he wants to change it. And now he is phrasing his responses in such a way as to act like he hasn't been doing the same thing in other threads that he is condemning here.

And we all know he won't apply this latest shtick consistently. Next thread where arguing the opposite of what he is arguing now suits his side more, he will drop all this, do his "but you guys" routine (to try and absolve himself of all blame for his actions), and then change his stance and standards once again to favour his argument there.

Not to mention his "movie-star physics" argument is the most subjective nonsense ever. As mentioned previously, franchises like Die Hard and Fast & Furious have plenty of characters who can do and survive things normal humans can't. Who exactly is going to decide what should stand and what shouldn't in these threads? H1? LOL.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
This.

H1 [B]has been giving guys like Rorschach those kinds of durability feats in threads, based on things like the Ozy head kick. And he never had any kind of issue with doing so. It's just now that it's Bucky and T'Challa that he is coming up with this BS. Which just, once again, proves what a biased troll he is. He was happy to apply one set of standards, over and over, as long as it suited his argument at the time. Now that it doesn't suit him, he wants to change it. And now he is phrasing his responses in such a way as to act like he hasn't been doing the same thing in other threads that he is condemning here.

And we all know he won't apply this latest shtick consistently. Next thread where arguing the opposite of what he is arguing now suits his side more, he will drop all this, do his "but you guys" routine (to try and absolve himself of all blame for his actions), and then change his stance and standards once again to favour his argument there.

Not to mention his "movie-star physics" argument is the most subjective nonsense ever. As mentioned previously, franchises like Die Hard and Fast & Furious have plenty of characters who can do and survive things normal humans can't. Who exactly is going to decide what should stand and what shouldn't in these threads? H1? LOL. [/B]

I just was applying the same metrics others were doing for their characters just to be fair. Instead of criticizing, why don't you give input on the logic that should be applied when it comes to movie star human durability. I'm up for suggestions.

How do we reconcile Tony tanking an elbow from Bucky without getting a broken face or being koed? Is it due to the movie's physics for human stars or does Bucky really have human level strength?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ah see there? You don't have an answer do you? You're going to try and duck around me now because you know I caught you.

No you weren't, you were doing what you always do and that is low ball characters you're arguing against while highly exaggerating any characters you're arguing for.

If you disagree, go ahead and prove me wrong by providing examples that showcase you are using other people's metrics.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No you weren't, you were doing what you always do and that is low ball characters you're arguing against while highly exaggerating any characters you're arguing for.

If you disagree, go ahead and prove me wrong by providing examples that showcase you are using other people's metrics.

That's not true. People over-exaggerate feats here (a form of bias). For example, people have used BW's feat against the Hulk to try to prove she has superhuman durability. Not realizing that any human in the film could have survived the same. Also, Cap and Bucky gets wanked beyond belief.

Basically, the metric is someone surviving something (without sufficient injury) to something that is supposedly beyond the character's normal durability and using it as a representative to their forum durability. Therefore, I started using this same metric.

By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

That involves him speaking the truth. Why would he do that when he can lie like always and get away with it because no mod ever calls him on his shit?