Ozymandias vs. Black Panther

Originally posted by h1a8

It's actually the opposite. It's proven by the fact that you won't answer my initial question. You duck it and ask a question of your own. So again, I asked first. If you are correct then you have nothing to worry about. I will answer any question you have after you answer mine.

Except I never had any issues with Bucky not knocking out Tony with an elbow hit nor Ozy not knocking out his opponents with a single punch. So I don't have to answer your question because I don't claim that there's an issue there.

You're the one who's claiming that Bucky not being able to break Tony's face with an elbow jab is proof that he doesn't have superstrength. So I ask you, why then do you not apply the same logic when Ozy doesn't break the face of Rosch, Comedian and Rosch with multiple punches?

^^ This is basically what it comes down to. No one else makes an issue out of this, whether it's Bucky or Ozy or whoever. Not even H1 in other threads. It's just now, in an effort to dismiss a feat he doesn't like.

But hey, if he truly is using our metrics, then surely he could provide an example where one of us tried to apply his current argument to a thread or character. And, obviously, us applying his own logic back at him in this thread, after he already initially brought it up, does not count.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Except I never had any issues with Bucky not knocking out Tony with an elbow hit nor Ozy not knocking out his opponents with a single punch. So I don't have to answer your question because I don't claim that there's an issue there.

You're the one who's claiming that Bucky not being able to break Tony's face with an elbow jab is proof that he doesn't have superstrength. So I ask you, why then do you not apply the same logic when Ozy doesn't break the face of Rosch, Comedian and Rosch with multiple punches?

I didn’t make a direct claim. I gave an “or” argument. You just chose one part and completely ignored the other.
Please answer the question.

I'm not the one making an ass out of myself. You answer your own question. If I don't answer your question, I have nothing to lose. If you don't answer it, it makes it obvious that you're running away from your own question.

You're the one who said Bucky isn't super strong because he didn't break Tony's face with an elbow. So then by your own logic that means Ozy is even weaker because he couldn't break his opponent's faces with multiple punches.

If you don't want to answer then I assume you agree that Ozy is weaker than Bucky by using your own logic. I don't need to answer because I'm not the one who came up with such stupid claims.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm not the one making an ass out of myself. You answer your own question. If I don't answer your question, I have nothing to lose. If you don't answer it, it makes it obvious that you're running away from your own question.

You're the one who said Bucky isn't super strong because he didn't break Tony's face with an elbow. So then by your own logic that means Ozy is even weaker because he couldn't break his opponent's faces with multiple punches.

If you don't want to answer then I assume you agree that Ozy is weaker than Bucky by using your own logic. I don't need to answer because I'm not the one who came up with such stupid claims.

I said no such thing. Again I gave an "or" argument. Are you stupid? How many times do I have to repeat myself. Read my posts again.

Originally posted by h1a8
Someone of supposedly superhuman strength should BREAK the face of an ordinary human with an elbow strike, and ko them. Neither happened. So that means the movie is using different physics for human stars or Bucky isn't really superhumanly strong.

Do you see the two possibilities? If you believe there is a different possibility then I'm all ears.

By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

Originally posted by h1a8
I said no such thing. Again I gave an "or" argument. Are you stupid? How many times do I have to repeat myself. Read my posts again.

Do you see the two possibilities? If you believe there is a different possibility then I'm all ears.

Your "or" doesn't answer the question. In fact, your "or" is completely unrelated to this discussion. Stop using a red herring and answer the question. If it's so easy to answer then why go through pages and pages of this? Just answer and prove me wrong. By evading the question all you're doing is proving that you're caught in a corner and are just trying to weasel out.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Your "or" doesn't answer the question. In fact, your "or" is completely unrelated to this discussion. Stop using a red herring and answer the question. If it's so easy to answer then why go through pages and pages of this? Just answer and prove me wrong. By evading the question all you're doing is proving that you're caught in a corner and are just trying to weasel out.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why should I answer your question when you never answered mine? Think!

By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

Originally posted by Silent Master
By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

Remember this?

Originally posted by Silent Master
No you weren't, you were doing what you always do and that is low ball characters you're arguing against while highly exaggerating any characters you're arguing for.

If you disagree, go ahead and prove me wrong by providing examples that showcase you are using other people's metrics.

So far you haven't actually posted any proof. just more claims.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why should I answer your question when you never answered mine? Think!

Actually, I just went back the last few pages. You never asked me a question. So... what question are you talking about?

Originally posted by h1a8

Then how do you explain Tony not having a broken face or being koed by the elbow? Movie physics or lack of power from the elbow? It’s either one or the other.

By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

Originally posted by h1a8

That question was directed at TheVaultDweller , not FrothByte.

Originally posted by h1a8

Yeah, that question was never directed to me. So guess what, turns out I actually asked you a question first. So go ahead and answer my question. I'll be glad to answer whatever questions you have for me afterwards.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah, that question was never directed to me. So guess what, turns out I actually asked you a question first. So go ahead and answer my question. I'll be glad to answer whatever questions you have for me afterwards.

Originally posted by Silent Master
By provide examples I mean actually show me the quotes where it was said.

Originally posted by h1a8
I would say because of the movie's physics for human stars.

No, that wasn't my question. My question was, why do you still consider Ozy superstrong despite the fact that he doesn't break his opponents faces with each punch when you're applying that logic to Bucky and Tony?

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, that wasn't my question. My question was, why do you still consider Ozy superstrong despite the fact that he doesn't break his opponents faces with each punch when you're applying that logic to Bucky and Tony?

Here is your question.

Originally posted by FrothByte
How do you explain Rosch or Comedian's faces not being broken from multiple direct punches from Ozy?